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Nobody's trying to confuse anyone though, they're trying to provide alternatives. "Sausage" is such a generic term, covering so very many things, that it's biz

by Nursie 4y ago

Nobody's trying to confuse anyone though, they're trying to provide alternatives. "Sausage" is such a generic term, covering so very many things, that it's bizarre to try and restrict it. (edit: almost forgot we are talking about France, a country which tries to control its language by law. Carry on then!)

mgkimsal 4y ago
agreed on genericness. I have generally at least 2 options anywhere I go - sausage or turkey sausage, with the default assumption of 'pork'. But many places around me have (pork) sausage, turkey sausage, and vegan sausage. I don't think it's that hard, or confuses people (or, at least the people who care about vegan in the first place).
- 7952 4y ago
  And you can have cured and air dried sausages.
rospaya 4y ago
> (edit: almost forgot we are talking about France, a country which tries to control its language by law. Carry on then!) I get why this is controversial, but keep in mind that a lot of countries do that. English is the outlier here, and that's because it's not being threatened the same way other national languages are.
- philistine 4y ago
  You're both completely right, and completely wrong. You're completely right that French is far from the only language with a centralized linguistic authority. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_regulators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_regulators) As a matter of fact, the United States is all in as a language regulator: they have a language regulator ... for Spanish! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Academy_of_the_Spanish_Language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Academy_of_the_...) Where you are absurdly wrong, is where you say that the threat to a language is the reason for the existence of a language academy. It simply isn't; the reasons are purely historical for almost all languages. I mean, Cardinal Richelieu founded l'académie française. French was not threatened during the reign of Louis XIII!
  - herewulf 4y ago
    French may be a bad example but at least some language regulation is actually nice, otherwise you end up with the dumpster fire that is English spelling. I say this as someone teaching two young children to read.
sofixa 4y ago
> "Sausage" is such a generic term, covering so very many things, that it's bizarre to try and restrict it. In France various types of sausage are with protected names and origins ( e.g. Toulouse, Montbéliard, etc.), so usually sausage is a very precise term and you know what you're getting.

by Nursie 4y ago

mgkimsal 4y ago

agreed on genericness. I have generally at least 2 options anywhere I go - sausage or turkey sausage, with the default assumption of 'pork'. But many places around me have (pork) sausage, turkey sausage, and vegan sausage. I don't think it's that hard, or confuses people (or, at least the people who care about vegan in the first place).

7952 4y ago
And you can have cured and air dried sausages.

rospaya 4y ago

> (edit: almost forgot we are talking about France, a country which tries to control its language by law. Carry on then!) I get why this is controversial, but keep in mind that a lot of countries do that. English is the outlier here, and that's because it's not being threatened the same way other national languages are.

philistine 4y ago
You're both completely right, and completely wrong. You're completely right that French is far from the only language with a centralized linguistic authority. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_regulators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_regulators) As a matter of fact, the United States is all in as a language regulator: they have a language regulator ... for Spanish! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Academy_of_the_Spanish_Language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Academy_of_the_...) Where you are absurdly wrong, is where you say that the threat to a language is the reason for the existence of a language academy. It simply isn't; the reasons are purely historical for almost all languages. I mean, Cardinal Richelieu founded l'académie française. French was not threatened during the reign of Louis XIII!
- herewulf 4y ago
  French may be a bad example but at least some language regulation is actually nice, otherwise you end up with the dumpster fire that is English spelling. I say this as someone teaching two young children to read.

sofixa 4y ago

> "Sausage" is such a generic term, covering so very many things, that it's bizarre to try and restrict it. In France various types of sausage are with protected names and origins ( e.g. Toulouse, Montbéliard, etc.), so usually sausage is a very precise term and you know what you're getting.