Yeah as of now I think the SSR capabilities of NextJS and NuxtJS will serve mostly for the first paint, it will also allow a user to navigate between pages with

Yeah as of now I think the SSR capabilities of NextJS and NuxtJS will serve mostly for the first paint, it will also allow a user to navigate between pages without running JavaScript (which a SPA wouldn't). I do have to agree though that at a certain point thinking further than this about non-js users becomes too cumbersome and not really worth it if your application is truly a web _app_ meaning very interactive and to the point it could be bundled as a desktop application. I'd like to note that Remix does handle everything being tied to a single logic as far as my testing went, I love it. The idea is that basically all interaction is done with html forms (like in the old days) and Remix loads a React bundle that makes that run client side after the page has loaded. It's a very simple model that should work for most use cases, although I don't think it's suitable if you're truly developing a web _app_. As with everything, balance is key. JavaScript is useful and more appropriate is some situations, and it's not in others. I do hope to see more progress with seamless SSR for SPAs though, I think it would make the internet a much better place.