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ICE HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) = transnational crime ICE ERO (Enforcement Removal Operations) = brownshirts, entirely immigration Two separate age

ICE HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) = transnational crime ICE ERO (Enforcement Removal Operations) = brownshirts, entirely immigration Two separate agencies with two separate missions, and this is about HSI.

nobody9999 4y ago
>ICE HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) = transnational crime >ICE ERO (Enforcement Removal Operations) = brownshirts, entirely immigration >Two separate agencies with two separate missions, and this is about HSI. Folks keep mentioning these separate groups within ICE. Which makes a great deal of sense if you actually say the words that make up ICE: Immigration and Customs Enforcement. ERO == Immigration (the issues surrounding folks coming into the country) HSI == Customs (the issues surrounding stuff coming into the country Broadly related but distinct areas of enforcement. Edit: Fixed formatting.
jjulius 4y ago
This suggests that HSI only focuses on transnational crime, while ERO is "entirely immigration". In actuality, HSI also works on immigration. From an article linked to in the Coinbase article that this thread is about: >According to ICE, HSI agents “encountered 97 individuals who are subject to removal from the United States” during its execution of a federal criminal search warrant at the meatpacking plant. https://theintercept.com/2018/04/10/ice-raids-tennessee-meatpacking-plant/ https://theintercept.com/2018/04/10/ice-raids-tennessee-meat...
- finiteseries 4y ago
  I actually tried editing it specifically not to suggest that while still reflecting the underlying reality, sorry. Suffice to say, meat packing plants and undocumented labor are not HSI’s priority, ERO is consumed by them. It’s a big issue, ERO can’t even perform their own workplace raids/political stunts so they co-opt the serious agency for it whenever the winds in DC blow the right direction. Blown in part by the infamous “ICE union” of course, while hilariously, the HSI agents performing the stunts aren’t even unionized. But because DHS is, has, and will probably continue to be in disarray merely confronted with its daily agenda, it’s always going to be a “bad time” to look at finally separating the two.

nobody9999 4y ago

>ICE HSI (Homeland Security Investigations) = transnational crime >ICE ERO (Enforcement Removal Operations) = brownshirts, entirely immigration >Two separate agencies with two separate missions, and this is about HSI. Folks keep mentioning these separate groups within ICE. Which makes a great deal of sense if you actually say the words that make up ICE: Immigration and Customs Enforcement. ERO == Immigration (the issues surrounding folks coming into the country) HSI == Customs (the issues surrounding stuff coming into the country Broadly related but distinct areas of enforcement. Edit: Fixed formatting.

jjulius 4y ago

This suggests that HSI only focuses on transnational crime, while ERO is "entirely immigration". In actuality, HSI also works on immigration. From an article linked to in the Coinbase article that this thread is about: >According to ICE, HSI agents “encountered 97 individuals who are subject to removal from the United States” during its execution of a federal criminal search warrant at the meatpacking plant. https://theintercept.com/2018/04/10/ice-raids-tennessee-meatpacking-plant/ https://theintercept.com/2018/04/10/ice-raids-tennessee-meat...

finiteseries 4y ago
I actually tried editing it specifically not to suggest that while still reflecting the underlying reality, sorry. Suffice to say, meat packing plants and undocumented labor are not HSI’s priority, ERO is consumed by them. It’s a big issue, ERO can’t even perform their own workplace raids/political stunts so they co-opt the serious agency for it whenever the winds in DC blow the right direction. Blown in part by the infamous “ICE union” of course, while hilariously, the HSI agents performing the stunts aren’t even unionized. But because DHS is, has, and will probably continue to be in disarray merely confronted with its daily agenda, it’s always going to be a “bad time” to look at finally separating the two.