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Europeans have a rich history of bad regimes and their removal. It's not like the puppet regime would be like "Oh no, we can't do anything about this person who

by mrtksn 4y ago

Europeans have a rich history of bad regimes and their removal. It's not like the puppet regime would be like "Oh no, we can't do anything about this person who tweets nasty things about us because we can't look him up in the central registry". It's going to be like "hey Twitter give us the ip address of this person or you loose your money and access to our market" and then they will phone the ISP and tell them to give the ID and address of the user with that ip address. So in reality, central registry of information doesn't really protect you from anything but saves the bad actor a few phone calls. On the other hand, it saves you a lot of phone calls and office visits every time you need to deal with the government. If Russians install a puppet regime, the existence or lack of central registry wont actually change much. It will require popular uprising to make a difference, which Europeans are actually accustomed to. Riots and protests happen all the time everywhere and taking down the governments is a thing too. Of course it depend on the specific country but in general governments in European countries resign all the time and when the refuse to resign despite popular demand they end up removed by riots.

swader999 4y ago
Indeed they do have a rich history of bad regimes. That's kind of the point.
- M2Ys4U 4y ago
  We've also learned from our history, and created institutions like the ECHR to enforce a minimum standard of human rights against the state, and list more things than "Speech and guns good" like the US.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  So they also have bad history of greedy private enterprises on which they don't have a say. The idea is that there's a value in having an enterprise(the government) with centralised record keeping because they own that government and have the power to change managers on predefined reviews(elections) and they have a history of forcefully changing managers who try to stick around despite not being wanted. What do you do when a private enterprise misbehaves? Mind you, the governmental duties are often monopolistic by nature. What do you do then? Sniper the CEO? It's much more socially acceptable to riot against the government and burn government building than assaulting company HQ.

by mrtksn 4y ago

swader999 4y ago

Indeed they do have a rich history of bad regimes. That's kind of the point.

M2Ys4U 4y ago
We've also learned from our history, and created institutions like the ECHR to enforce a minimum standard of human rights against the state, and list more things than "Speech and guns good" like the US.
mrtksn 4y ago
So they also have bad history of greedy private enterprises on which they don't have a say. The idea is that there's a value in having an enterprise(the government) with centralised record keeping because they own that government and have the power to change managers on predefined reviews(elections) and they have a history of forcefully changing managers who try to stick around despite not being wanted. What do you do when a private enterprise misbehaves? Mind you, the governmental duties are often monopolistic by nature. What do you do then? Sniper the CEO? It's much more socially acceptable to riot against the government and burn government building than assaulting company HQ.