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My favorite answer is: if you included Microsoft source code the quality of suggestions drops below viable product.

by ipaddr 4y ago

codefreeordie 4y ago
This is a funny and flippant answer, but is also nonsense.
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  It is however plausible that the code is only "good" given internal considerations. Microsoft has a specific internal coding styles designed to work with internal tools
- alexklarjr 4y ago
  I called it microsoft DNA. The way they do stuff is inhuman alien logic without any compassion or remorse (like all 10k+ their windows apis, or dontnet, or way they add features and handle support ).
omegalulw 4y ago
Do you have any evidence for this?
- alexklarjr 4y ago
  I don’t have windows 10 or 11, sorry.
josephcsible 4y ago
The reasons that Windows is awful have nothing to do with code quality. Windows is awful because of intentional choices Microsoft made (e.g., bloatware that gets reinstalled with every update, mandatory Microsoft accounts, and mandatory telemetry).
- NicoJuicy 4y ago
  Support for legacy features is always #1, code-wise
  - mmis1000 4y ago
    The default of windows already do compatibility in some crazy way. And the compatibility mode lies to the program about system version or even fake old bugs so program relies on bug will run. And I'd imagine. To make this work, ms would need tons of most shitty code you'd imagine in the source o fake those behaviors.
- alexklarjr 4y ago
  Their code were awful about 30 years before that.
  - buchoo 4y ago
    Was it? I recall the kuro5hin analysis of the leaked Windows 2000 source code[0] that said: >there is nothing really surprising in this leak. Microsoft does not steal open-source code. Their older code is flaky, their modern code excellent. Their programmers are skilled and enthusiastic. Problems are generally due to a trade-off of current quality against vast hardware, software and backward compatibility. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20040401115821/http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795 https://web.archive.org/web/20040401115821/http://www.kuro5h...
    - samatman 4y ago
      30 years ago was 1992. That's the older flaky code they're referring to in the quote.
- pragmatic 4y ago
  In what way is Windows “awful”? I can think of annoyances but awful? Come on.
  - 4y ago

My favorite answer is: if you included Microsoft source code the quality of suggestions drops below viable product.

by ipaddr 4y ago

My favorite answer is: if you included Microsoft source code the quality of suggestions drops below viable product.

codefreeordie 4y ago

This is a funny and flippant answer, but is also nonsense.

iudqnolq 4y ago
It is however plausible that the code is only "good" given internal considerations. Microsoft has a specific internal coding styles designed to work with internal tools
alexklarjr 4y ago
I called it microsoft DNA. The way they do stuff is inhuman alien logic without any compassion or remorse (like all 10k+ their windows apis, or dontnet, or way they add features and handle support ).

omegalulw 4y ago

Do you have any evidence for this?

alexklarjr 4y ago
I don’t have windows 10 or 11, sorry.

josephcsible 4y ago

The reasons that Windows is awful have nothing to do with code quality. Windows is awful because of intentional choices Microsoft made (e.g., bloatware that gets reinstalled with every update, mandatory Microsoft accounts, and mandatory telemetry).

NicoJuicy 4y ago
Support for legacy features is always #1, code-wise
- mmis1000 4y ago
  The default of windows already do compatibility in some crazy way. And the compatibility mode lies to the program about system version or even fake old bugs so program relies on bug will run. And I'd imagine. To make this work, ms would need tons of most shitty code you'd imagine in the source o fake those behaviors.
alexklarjr 4y ago
Their code were awful about 30 years before that.
- buchoo 4y ago
  Was it? I recall the kuro5hin analysis of the leaked Windows 2000 source code[0] that said: >there is nothing really surprising in this leak. Microsoft does not steal open-source code. Their older code is flaky, their modern code excellent. Their programmers are skilled and enthusiastic. Problems are generally due to a trade-off of current quality against vast hardware, software and backward compatibility. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20040401115821/http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795 https://web.archive.org/web/20040401115821/http://www.kuro5h...
  - samatman 4y ago
    30 years ago was 1992. That's the older flaky code they're referring to in the quote.
pragmatic 4y ago
In what way is Windows “awful”? I can think of annoyances but awful? Come on.
- 4y ago