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This is very much the opposite of calvinaball. The rules are in the constitution and that hasn't changed in quite a while. EDIT: RE: no right to poop(sic) in t

by usrn 4y ago

This is very much the opposite of calvinaball. The rules are in the constitution and that hasn't changed in quite a while. EDIT: RE: no right to poop(sic) in the constitution It's a list of things the government may not do, not a list of things you may do. Try reading it, it's very short. I would imagine the court would rule a law against that would violate the right to life.

hotpotamus 4y ago
Curious then that it took until 2008 to find an individual right to gun ownership in the constitution then, no?
- usrn 4y ago
  That rule has been there since the beginning even if you don't acknowledge it. EDIT: It didn't need to be acknowledged because there wasn't a strong push to disarm the population until fairly recently. EDIT2: It looks to me like they only really go back to just after the civil war, largely to keep African Americans from carrying firearms. The first attempt by the Federal Government to ban them was in the mid 20th century which was exactly what I expected. EDIT3: James Madison tried and failed to pass the legislation (presumably because it was unpopular), at the state level (not federal level) and it didn't prevent people from owning guns just carrying them in public.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    But isn't it strange that it was there in the beginning and no one acknowledged it for about two centuries? EDIT for your edit: Huh? When I was a kid in Texas way back in the 90's, it was illegal to carry a gun period. You could take them out hunting or to the range or whatnot, but carrying a gun was illegal. The first concealed handgun law was 1995 if memory serves. Carry bans go back to the colonial era.
  - davidw 4y ago
    James Madison, the author of the 2nd amendment, tried to pass gun control legislation: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/26/conservative-supreme-court-gun-control-00042417 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/26/conservati...
ceejayoz 4y ago
> The rules are in the constitution The Ninth Amendment basically says "this isn't a list of all the rules". There's no right to poop in the Constitution. Do we have one? If Congress banned pooping, how would the court rule?
ceejayoz 4y ago
> It's a list of things the government may not do, not a list of things you may do. And yet, they saw fit to include the Ninth Amendment, so some nincompoop wouldn't go "there's no right to privacy!" > I would imagine the court would rule a law against that would violate the right to life. The wording is "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"; what happens if pooping is made a capital crime? Why is banning abortion, marijuana, and whatnot not a similar violation of the "liberty" part of the same clause? (and what's with this edit-to-reply thing you've got going?)

by usrn 4y ago

hotpotamus 4y ago

Curious then that it took until 2008 to find an individual right to gun ownership in the constitution then, no?

usrn 4y ago
That rule has been there since the beginning even if you don't acknowledge it. EDIT: It didn't need to be acknowledged because there wasn't a strong push to disarm the population until fairly recently. EDIT2: It looks to me like they only really go back to just after the civil war, largely to keep African Americans from carrying firearms. The first attempt by the Federal Government to ban them was in the mid 20th century which was exactly what I expected. EDIT3: James Madison tried and failed to pass the legislation (presumably because it was unpopular), at the state level (not federal level) and it didn't prevent people from owning guns just carrying them in public.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  But isn't it strange that it was there in the beginning and no one acknowledged it for about two centuries? EDIT for your edit: Huh? When I was a kid in Texas way back in the 90's, it was illegal to carry a gun period. You could take them out hunting or to the range or whatnot, but carrying a gun was illegal. The first concealed handgun law was 1995 if memory serves. Carry bans go back to the colonial era.
- davidw 4y ago
  James Madison, the author of the 2nd amendment, tried to pass gun control legislation: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/26/conservative-supreme-court-gun-control-00042417 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/26/conservati...

ceejayoz 4y ago

> The rules are in the constitution The Ninth Amendment basically says "this isn't a list of all the rules". There's no right to poop in the Constitution. Do we have one? If Congress banned pooping, how would the court rule?

ceejayoz 4y ago

> It's a list of things the government may not do, not a list of things you may do. And yet, they saw fit to include the Ninth Amendment, so some nincompoop wouldn't go "there's no right to privacy!" > I would imagine the court would rule a law against that would violate the right to life. The wording is "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"; what happens if pooping is made a capital crime? Why is banning abortion, marijuana, and whatnot not a similar violation of the "liberty" part of the same clause? (and what's with this edit-to-reply thing you've got going?)