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So you want for women to have their basic rights for us to go through a constitutional amendment path? Interesting. This feels like fascism through paperwork.

vorpalhex 4y ago
You can say "I don't like X". You don't have to say every is "Fascism". It's ok just to be upset and not like something. Fascism by the way would be rule by fiat - eg a King or a Dictator can just declare new law: "I declare all Hamburgers shall now be served with bacon and anyone who fails to do shall be executed". Writing down laws and having a neutral body interpret them is a really important part of fair forms of Government (but not unique to Democracy). There is no defense to a fiat in a Dictatorship but that is a defense in eg Democracy. The publishing, disseminating and authority of rules is the basis of a fair form of government.
- epakai 4y ago
  Where is this neutral body? Half of the court was explicitly groomed to take a partisan stance. They even have the ability to choose their own cases, plus a shadow docket.
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    Having a body made up of two opposing sides is generally how we build neutral bodies. The liberal justices are not a beacon of neutrality - they lean towards liberal policies and expansionist interpretations the same way the conservative justices lean towards conservative policies and paring down the Fed.
- aaomidi 4y ago
  I mean, this is a literal historical lesson. Fascism mixed with bureaucracy is extremely powerful and extremely difficult to fight. Hopefully this article can shed some light on it for you. https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/290919/bureaucracy-and-the-fascists.html https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/290919/bu... This is what I view is happening in the US. Single dictators don’t mean fascism. That’s an extremely simplistic and playground view on fascism. Heck, single dictators are much easier to combat than democratic & bureaucratic fascism.
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    This isn't some kind of new legislative process. This has literally been the law of the land since the constitution where it's described. And I'm sorry but I'm going to reject the opinion column of a small newspaper as a source. You're right in that Fascism is not just composed of single dictators but you are confusing the Rule of Law with beaucracy. Having a high court and requiring laws to be explicit is not "Fascism", it is literally the basis of the legal system.
    - aaomidi 4y ago
      are you under the impression that Germany didn’t have a “rule of law” when nazis were in power then? A “rule of law” is a tool that can be used for evil. I’m not sure why we’re being blind to this?
lotsofpulp 4y ago
I did not write anything about what I want or do not want.

vorpalhex 4y ago

You can say "I don't like X". You don't have to say every is "Fascism". It's ok just to be upset and not like something. Fascism by the way would be rule by fiat - eg a King or a Dictator can just declare new law: "I declare all Hamburgers shall now be served with bacon and anyone who fails to do shall be executed". Writing down laws and having a neutral body interpret them is a really important part of fair forms of Government (but not unique to Democracy). There is no defense to a fiat in a Dictatorship but that is a defense in eg Democracy. The publishing, disseminating and authority of rules is the basis of a fair form of government.

epakai 4y ago
Where is this neutral body? Half of the court was explicitly groomed to take a partisan stance. They even have the ability to choose their own cases, plus a shadow docket.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  Having a body made up of two opposing sides is generally how we build neutral bodies. The liberal justices are not a beacon of neutrality - they lean towards liberal policies and expansionist interpretations the same way the conservative justices lean towards conservative policies and paring down the Fed.
aaomidi 4y ago
I mean, this is a literal historical lesson. Fascism mixed with bureaucracy is extremely powerful and extremely difficult to fight. Hopefully this article can shed some light on it for you. https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/290919/bureaucracy-and-the-fascists.html https://www.deccanchronicle.com/opinion/columnists/290919/bu... This is what I view is happening in the US. Single dictators don’t mean fascism. That’s an extremely simplistic and playground view on fascism. Heck, single dictators are much easier to combat than democratic & bureaucratic fascism.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  This isn't some kind of new legislative process. This has literally been the law of the land since the constitution where it's described. And I'm sorry but I'm going to reject the opinion column of a small newspaper as a source. You're right in that Fascism is not just composed of single dictators but you are confusing the Rule of Law with beaucracy. Having a high court and requiring laws to be explicit is not "Fascism", it is literally the basis of the legal system.
  - aaomidi 4y ago
    are you under the impression that Germany didn’t have a “rule of law” when nazis were in power then? A “rule of law” is a tool that can be used for evil. I’m not sure why we’re being blind to this?

lotsofpulp 4y ago

I did not write anything about what I want or do not want.