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The basic concept that countries and corporations still disagree on is whether or not to rapidly phase out fossil fuels due to the reality of steady fossil-fuel
by photochemsyn 4y ago
The basic concept that countries and corporations still disagree on is whether or not to rapidly phase out fossil fuels due to the reality of steady fossil-fueled global warming and related issues (floods, droughts, heat waves, intense storms, sea level rise, etc.). At this point, at least, the science denialists have little sway, and the arguments come down to 'we can live with it, and should maintain current fossil fuel production levels over the next 30 years' versus 'the results will be so damaging that we have to get off fossil fuels immediately by building out renewable electric systems'.
It's certainly technically possible to replace the entire fossil fuel system at present using existing technology: no new inventions are required, it's just a matter of construction at scale. However, this would require a global reorganization and investment on the scale needed to replace the entire fossil fuel system - which was constructed over decades with rough estimates on the order of $10 trillion in inputs. Think of all the drilling rigs, the oil tankers, the networks of pipelines, the hundreds of refineries, the millions of vehicles relying on gasoline and diesel, the gas-burning electric power plants, the coal-burning electric power plants, the trains hauling the coal... Of course, if properly managed, the switch will also be an economic boom - for some.
There's the unavoidable fact that economies that have relied on export of fossil fuels to global markets for decades will simply go belly-up under a replacement scenario. Resource export systems typically benefit a relatively small number of elites in the source country (Russian oligarchs, Saudi Arabian princes, Wall Street billionaires, etc.) but there are trickle-down effects. The non-diversified economies will be the hardest hit.
In contrast, countries and regions that rely heavily on fossil fuel imports, or on dirty coal - for example China, Japan, Germany, etc. - have the most incentive to make a rapid transition. Europe in general would see benefits from ending reliance on Russian, American and Middle Eastern oil and gas imports.
Technologically, this is just progress. Fuels are inefficient means of generating electricity, and direct conversion of sunlight and wind to electricity and storage and distribution of electricity is just more efficient, cleaner, and not reliant on global transport of fuels from sources to destinations.
As far as fossil fueled global warming, I'm afraid the tipping point has come and gone. Even with halting fossil fuel use over the next three decades (a 3% reduction and replacement per year scenario with renewables is certainly plausible), there's already a significant permafrost emission input, megadroughts are already a reality, and it'll take another century of slow, steady warming before temperatures begin to stabilize, even under the most optimistic scenario. This means adaptation is going to be an inevitable necessity.
- solardev 4y agoIt's not something you can just will into existence. Where does most electricity come from? Fossil fuels. Replacing the generation is easy: solar is the obvious choice. But balancing out the peaks and valleys in the demand-vs-production curve? Renewables can't easily do that. And it gets worse as you add more renewables. (Edit: This is exactly what is happening in California, and nobody really knows quite how to solve it well. The grid can't keep up with the dramatic ramp-ups and shut-downs as sunset meets the rush of everyone getting home after work. In the meantime PG&E is forced to change their pricing structure or go (even more) bankrupt.) You can use storage to store excess production and use it as a buffer during peaks. But storage isn't so easy to ramp up. Batteries? A lot of the source materials are mined in areas with either terrible labor & environmental practices, and/or have geopolitical considerations (like replacing with Russian oil with Chinese minerals). Pumped hydro? A bit like building dams... lots of social and environmental consequences. The only other real options are where you're either naturally lucky (geothermal), small hydro, or new nuclear. None of those are easy to adopt, especially with rampant NIMBYism. If we had started this rollout three decades ago, there might be more time for adaptation. Now the issue is no longer "is there the public will for it" but "how do we do this even if everyone is 100% on board". Most futurists imagined a gradual rollout & replacement of dirty techs, not a "well, we'll just wait until the last minute... lol. oh shit, it's time, how do we do this?!". But of course human nature does its thing =/