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Your position is that "most of the world," i.e., more than half of its 7.75 billion people, disapprove of Dobbs? How did you come to that figure? There's no po

Your position is that "most of the world," i.e., more than half of its 7.75 billion people, disapprove of Dobbs? How did you come to that figure? There's no possible way that's true unless you simply decide that the opinions of non-white people don't count. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/map-abortion-laws-around-the-world/2883475/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/map-a... And even that map overstates the situation, since, e.g., China's rule is essentially identical to Dobbs: individual provinces have the power to regulate. https://www.safeabortionwomensright.org/news/china-jiangxi-province-has-restricted-abortion-after-the-14th-week-of-pregnancy-because-of-the-sex-ratio-imbalance/ https://www.safeabortionwomensright.org/news/china-jiangxi-p... It's also obviously false that the U.S. has the world view that "detention without trial and major human right abuses" are acceptable. And it's dishonest to compare waging an illegal war with being gay - I mean, seriously, are you saying gay people are literal terrorists? There's no difference in your mind between two men honeymooning on the Persian Gulf and KSM? Seriously. C'mon man.

HatchedLake721 4y ago
I've seen your previously deleted comment. You smell of bias when you use terms like "there's no possible way that's true" and "it's also obviously false". No, things you disagree with cannot be "obviously false", and there are things you think are false that can actually be true. I don't know if you're being pedantic or using straw man arguments by bringing "7.75 billion people" or introducing race into this discussion. I won't be getting into this. I'll just elaborate and rephrase. Yes, most of the world, where people live without oppression and tyranny, have grown up with freedom to information, are not religiously prosecuted, value other people's lives, appreciate access to healthcare and respect human rights, would oppose prosecution and criminalisation of women who want to abort their pregnancy after being raped or to stop their babies suffering and wait for them to die inside or to die on birth. > I mean, seriously, are you saying gay people are literal terrorists? Lol. Yes, I am saying exactly that, that gay people are literal terrorists. /s I have no clue how you got to that conclusion and why, along with race, you're now bringing terrorists to this conversation. > It's also obviously false that the U.S. has the world view that "detention without trial and major human right abuses" are acceptable. Yes, it's "obviously false" that Mohamedou Ould Slahi was tortured and imprisoned for 14 years without ever being charged until his release in 2016. And it's "obviously false" CIA was looking at options of how to assassinate a journalist (Julian Assange). It feels you view some things in black and white. The world, especially governments, are far from that. We can understand that governments (made out of people and decisions) fuck up and be patriotic at the same time.
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HatchedLake721 4y ago

I've seen your previously deleted comment. You smell of bias when you use terms like "there's no possible way that's true" and "it's also obviously false". No, things you disagree with cannot be "obviously false", and there are things you think are false that can actually be true. I don't know if you're being pedantic or using straw man arguments by bringing "7.75 billion people" or introducing race into this discussion. I won't be getting into this. I'll just elaborate and rephrase. Yes, most of the world, where people live without oppression and tyranny, have grown up with freedom to information, are not religiously prosecuted, value other people's lives, appreciate access to healthcare and respect human rights, would oppose prosecution and criminalisation of women who want to abort their pregnancy after being raped or to stop their babies suffering and wait for them to die inside or to die on birth. > I mean, seriously, are you saying gay people are literal terrorists? Lol. Yes, I am saying exactly that, that gay people are literal terrorists. /s I have no clue how you got to that conclusion and why, along with race, you're now bringing terrorists to this conversation. > It's also obviously false that the U.S. has the world view that "detention without trial and major human right abuses" are acceptable. Yes, it's "obviously false" that Mohamedou Ould Slahi was tortured and imprisoned for 14 years without ever being charged until his release in 2016. And it's "obviously false" CIA was looking at options of how to assassinate a journalist (Julian Assange). It feels you view some things in black and white. The world, especially governments, are far from that. We can understand that governments (made out of people and decisions) fuck up and be patriotic at the same time.

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