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> Kefir also says in all bold letters in its README.md: "Usage is strongly discouraged. This is [an] experimental project which is not meant for production pur

> Kefir also says in all bold letters in its README.md: "Usage is strongly discouraged. This is [an] experimental project which is not meant for production purposes." > That was all the encouragement I needed. I love this

jraph 4y ago
"Usage is strongly discouraged, not meant for production" is a clue for "I actually put care into this thing, production use is probably fine" Garbage-quality projects don't bother putting such warnings. They might even not be aware they are garbage. (/s)
- dijit 4y ago
  This is sarcasm but there is a lot of truth in it unfortunately. I'm sure there must be a term for this... known incompetence > unknown incompetence. Doing your own research on complicated products is hard, that's why we as a community seem to move on to things via trial and error.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Isn’t that a variant of Dunning-Kruger?
  - skipants 4y ago
    Considering that the developer is saying "not for production" but the users are saying it works great in production, I'd say the comparison should be "unknown competence > unknown incompetence"
- winReInstall 4y ago
  Ah, yes, love those, cobbled together embedded compilers. Not a word in the Release.Me about the quirks. Just a "STABLE!!!". Like binary C-Operators will only work on the first 8 bits, the rest is up there and needs to be shifted in and out.. basically work it out yourselve, once it wont work. Then explain to the manager, that his hot project tooling from the megacorp upstream was basically license-brokken copy pasted garbage from some hobbyist half way around the world). And get a no, when asking for at least posting the patches back. Or the "Working feature" which is just some api header, going into a inlined binary blob returning some constant. Which is just some flytrap to get you to drive by develop it for them. Twelve angry part time devs, make up one full working project. The only professional in some industries is looking at you every morning from the mirror, begging for a mercy killing.
  - asciii 4y ago
    > The only professional in some industries is looking at you every morning from the mirror, begging for a mercy killing. That got dark quickly. Otherwise, so true
jcahill 4y ago
for prod you'll want mushrik or neocon
- pritambaral 4y ago
  Wrong root word; you're thinking of kaffir. Kefir is a fermented milk drink.
  - imajoredinecon 4y ago
    I think GP meant “ayran” or “doogh.”
  - jcahill 4y ago
    not for the joke it isn't; i am not, in fact, thinking of the racial slur; we all have google (but not all of us will idly assume to know the etymology of a project's name based on this); semicolons are awful punctuation
    - pritambaral 4y ago
      Who said anything about "racial slur"s? In Urdu, one of the languages I speak, "kaffir" means "non-believer". Your suggestions 'mushrik' and 'neocon' seemed to fit pretty perfectly with that interpretation. ---- Aside: semicolons are pretty great once one learns to wield them. Try it; you'll like it. Just think of it as a shorter pause than a period, but longer than a comma.
      - jcahill 4y ago
        the typical romanization of arabic كافر is "kafir". the typical spelling of the slur associated with apartheid-era south africa is "kaffir". > one of the languages I speak why would i care which languages you speak you are not me i am not you neither of us are everyone else >try it perhaps instead of me doing any of that, you could simply stop arrogating reflexively in your internet comments and presuming to know the inner contents of others' minds (you do not) >semicolons the purpose of your original reply was to condescend in typical nerdsplaining fashion. the reason my reply to you, in turn, was written like it was, including the side mention of semicolons, was to escalate abruptly and unambiguously, such that there was no ambiguity as to what i thought of the situation. i was expressing contempt. it's merely a circumstantial convenience that semicolons do happen to be dogshit punctuation used as epistemic crutch notation in prose

jraph 4y ago

"Usage is strongly discouraged, not meant for production" is a clue for "I actually put care into this thing, production use is probably fine" Garbage-quality projects don't bother putting such warnings. They might even not be aware they are garbage. (/s)

dijit 4y ago
This is sarcasm but there is a lot of truth in it unfortunately. I'm sure there must be a term for this... known incompetence > unknown incompetence. Doing your own research on complicated products is hard, that's why we as a community seem to move on to things via trial and error.
- masklinn 4y ago
  Isn’t that a variant of Dunning-Kruger?
- skipants 4y ago
  Considering that the developer is saying "not for production" but the users are saying it works great in production, I'd say the comparison should be "unknown competence > unknown incompetence"
winReInstall 4y ago
Ah, yes, love those, cobbled together embedded compilers. Not a word in the Release.Me about the quirks. Just a "STABLE!!!". Like binary C-Operators will only work on the first 8 bits, the rest is up there and needs to be shifted in and out.. basically work it out yourselve, once it wont work. Then explain to the manager, that his hot project tooling from the megacorp upstream was basically license-brokken copy pasted garbage from some hobbyist half way around the world). And get a no, when asking for at least posting the patches back. Or the "Working feature" which is just some api header, going into a inlined binary blob returning some constant. Which is just some flytrap to get you to drive by develop it for them. Twelve angry part time devs, make up one full working project. The only professional in some industries is looking at you every morning from the mirror, begging for a mercy killing.
- asciii 4y ago
  > The only professional in some industries is looking at you every morning from the mirror, begging for a mercy killing. That got dark quickly. Otherwise, so true

jcahill 4y ago

for prod you'll want mushrik or neocon

pritambaral 4y ago
Wrong root word; you're thinking of kaffir. Kefir is a fermented milk drink.
- imajoredinecon 4y ago
  I think GP meant “ayran” or “doogh.”
- jcahill 4y ago
  not for the joke it isn't; i am not, in fact, thinking of the racial slur; we all have google (but not all of us will idly assume to know the etymology of a project's name based on this); semicolons are awful punctuation
  - pritambaral 4y ago
    Who said anything about "racial slur"s? In Urdu, one of the languages I speak, "kaffir" means "non-believer". Your suggestions 'mushrik' and 'neocon' seemed to fit pretty perfectly with that interpretation. ---- Aside: semicolons are pretty great once one learns to wield them. Try it; you'll like it. Just think of it as a shorter pause than a period, but longer than a comma.
    - jcahill 4y ago
      the typical romanization of arabic كافر is "kafir". the typical spelling of the slur associated with apartheid-era south africa is "kaffir". > one of the languages I speak why would i care which languages you speak you are not me i am not you neither of us are everyone else >try it perhaps instead of me doing any of that, you could simply stop arrogating reflexively in your internet comments and presuming to know the inner contents of others' minds (you do not) >semicolons the purpose of your original reply was to condescend in typical nerdsplaining fashion. the reason my reply to you, in turn, was written like it was, including the side mention of semicolons, was to escalate abruptly and unambiguously, such that there was no ambiguity as to what i thought of the situation. i was expressing contempt. it's merely a circumstantial convenience that semicolons do happen to be dogshit punctuation used as epistemic crutch notation in prose