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Enlightened ideals were the suffragettes. Was the abolition of slavery. Don't you think calling this LGBT craze an enlightened ideal is a bit overselling it ?

sgift 4y ago
No. Also: Suffragettes and abolition of slavery were both called crazy in their time.
- 4gotunameagain 4y ago
  In their time triple distilled water containing radium was sold as an energy drink, they thought bathing was unhealthy, and they ate mercury. I will go out on a limb and say we can judge things a bit better now. Sure, right now we accept plastic and plasticisers everywhere around us. Which is crazy. And quite probably contributes to the great hormonal disruption and the trans craze.
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    > Sure, right now we accept plastic and plasticisers everywhere around us. Which is crazy. And quite probably contributes to the great hormonal disruption and the trans craze. Interesting intuition. Do you know of any research suggesting a causal link between plastics and more trans visibility?
  - sweetheart 4y ago
    This type of transphobia would be hilarious if it wasn’t so harmful. Reducing the entire history of transgenderism down to a “craze” is a perfect culmination of your ignorance and fear.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  The word "Suffragette" was originally an insult: https://www.nps.gov/articles/suffragistvssuffragette.htm https://www.nps.gov/articles/suffragistvssuffragette.htm (As was the word “scientist“).
benreesman 4y ago
From my reading of history, blacks, women, and gays have been treated like shit in appalling numbers as far as the books go back. From my observation of the present: plenty of that still going around. What makes suffrage or abolitionism any more or less worthy a case than the LGBT “craze”? Seems to me all this prejudice is fucking unhappy shit.
- 4gotunameagain 4y ago
  - benreesman 4y ago
    You’ll get no argument from me that there’s a loud fringe left same as a loud fringe right. But if you’re trying to make a stand on a hill that gay people don’t get discriminated against in substantially as nasty of ways as any other group that gets discriminated against? I’m going to have to politely bow out here. I strongly disagree and I’ll leave it at that.

sgift 4y ago

No. Also: Suffragettes and abolition of slavery were both called crazy in their time.

4gotunameagain 4y ago
In their time triple distilled water containing radium was sold as an energy drink, they thought bathing was unhealthy, and they ate mercury. I will go out on a limb and say we can judge things a bit better now. Sure, right now we accept plastic and plasticisers everywhere around us. Which is crazy. And quite probably contributes to the great hormonal disruption and the trans craze.
- andsoitis 4y ago
  > Sure, right now we accept plastic and plasticisers everywhere around us. Which is crazy. And quite probably contributes to the great hormonal disruption and the trans craze. Interesting intuition. Do you know of any research suggesting a causal link between plastics and more trans visibility?
- sweetheart 4y ago
  This type of transphobia would be hilarious if it wasn’t so harmful. Reducing the entire history of transgenderism down to a “craze” is a perfect culmination of your ignorance and fear.
ZeroGravitas 4y ago
The word "Suffragette" was originally an insult: https://www.nps.gov/articles/suffragistvssuffragette.htm https://www.nps.gov/articles/suffragistvssuffragette.htm (As was the word “scientist“).

benreesman 4y ago

From my reading of history, blacks, women, and gays have been treated like shit in appalling numbers as far as the books go back. From my observation of the present: plenty of that still going around. What makes suffrage or abolitionism any more or less worthy a case than the LGBT “craze”? Seems to me all this prejudice is fucking unhappy shit.

4gotunameagain 4y ago
- benreesman 4y ago
  You’ll get no argument from me that there’s a loud fringe left same as a loud fringe right. But if you’re trying to make a stand on a hill that gay people don’t get discriminated against in substantially as nasty of ways as any other group that gets discriminated against? I’m going to have to politely bow out here. I strongly disagree and I’ll leave it at that.