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I never write anything in any web interface. I write in notepad and copy and paste. I had many bad surprises ... I can't trust web interfaces. And I use the Win

I never write anything in any web interface. I write in notepad and copy and paste. I had many bad surprises ... I can't trust web interfaces. And I use the Windows clipboard manager too.

exyi 4y ago
It had never happened to me except for Confluence and Microsoft Teams. Firefox even preserves the typed text between reloads of the page - so unless the web app hacks the textarea somehow, the text will stay there.
wartijn_ 4y ago
I also prefer to write my stuff offline and than paste it to a web interface. That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags.. Jira does this better, but is still weird with their text formatting. There are two different kinds of input fields, one of them accepts markdown, the other one some other kind of markup language. Copying some formatted text from one of the inputs to the other doesn't work because of this.
- caspar 4y ago
  > That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags.. If you are in the new editor for Confluence Cloud (i.e. the editor based on ProseMirror rather than TinyMCE), you can sometimes get it to do "the right thing" of converting pasted markdown to formatted text by copying from a different text editor. For example, for me copying from windows notepad always does the right thing, but copying from vscode doesn't.
throwamon 4y ago
You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on. Not even going to go into how it's almost devoid of useful commands. Make one mistake, you're good. Make two, tough luck, you can only undo once. Accidentally select some (or all) text and type over it then somewhere else? Today's really not your day. It's actually worse than textboxes in this respect. This happened to me more times than I'd like to admit before I knew better.
- zac23or 4y ago
  Notepad++. Or Vim. Or any editor.
  - time0ut 4y ago
    This is how I work as well, but Sublime is my preferred editor. Same on both Windows and MacOS. Autosaves everything. Super fast.
- logicchains 4y ago
  >You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on. It's actually one of the best on Windows, because if you leave your computer for a moment and it randomly decides to restart to install a Windows Update, often a notepad with unsaved changes will block it from restarting, whilst unsaved work elsewhere won't.
  - LtdJorge 4y ago
    That's sad and true. Happened to me many times.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    Vs Notepad++ that simply autosaves in that case? Only problem there is when you realise you have 50 tabs of scratch data you were expecting to have been discarded by now but are all still loaded up next time it starts up...
    - theonemind 4y ago
      I think he considers notepad.exe one of the best applications expressly because it stops Windows from restarting when he doesn't want Windows restarted, which, ironically, it presumably wouldn't do it if had Notepad++'s better-designed and usually preferable behavior. (The Notepad+Windows case seems like botches (individually user-hostile forced reboots and poor handling of state on restart for Windows and Notepad respectively) partially cancelling each other out.)

I never write anything in any web interface. I write in notepad and copy and paste. I had many bad surprises ... I can't trust web interfaces. And I use the Windows clipboard manager too.

exyi 4y ago

It had never happened to me except for Confluence and Microsoft Teams. Firefox even preserves the typed text between reloads of the page - so unless the web app hacks the textarea somehow, the text will stay there.

wartijn_ 4y ago

I also prefer to write my stuff offline and than paste it to a web interface. That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags.. Jira does this better, but is still weird with their text formatting. There are two different kinds of input fields, one of them accepts markdown, the other one some other kind of markup language. Copying some formatted text from one of the inputs to the other doesn't work because of this.

caspar 4y ago
> That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags.. If you are in the new editor for Confluence Cloud (i.e. the editor based on ProseMirror rather than TinyMCE), you can sometimes get it to do "the right thing" of converting pasted markdown to formatted text by copying from a different text editor. For example, for me copying from windows notepad always does the right thing, but copying from vscode doesn't.

throwamon 4y ago

You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on. Not even going to go into how it's almost devoid of useful commands. Make one mistake, you're good. Make two, tough luck, you can only undo once. Accidentally select some (or all) text and type over it then somewhere else? Today's really not your day. It's actually worse than textboxes in this respect. This happened to me more times than I'd like to admit before I knew better.

zac23or 4y ago
Notepad++. Or Vim. Or any editor.
- time0ut 4y ago
  This is how I work as well, but Sublime is my preferred editor. Same on both Windows and MacOS. Autosaves everything. Super fast.
logicchains 4y ago
>You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on. It's actually one of the best on Windows, because if you leave your computer for a moment and it randomly decides to restart to install a Windows Update, often a notepad with unsaved changes will block it from restarting, whilst unsaved work elsewhere won't.
- LtdJorge 4y ago
  That's sad and true. Happened to me many times.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  Vs Notepad++ that simply autosaves in that case? Only problem there is when you realise you have 50 tabs of scratch data you were expecting to have been discarded by now but are all still loaded up next time it starts up...
  - theonemind 4y ago
    I think he considers notepad.exe one of the best applications expressly because it stops Windows from restarting when he doesn't want Windows restarted, which, ironically, it presumably wouldn't do it if had Notepad++'s better-designed and usually preferable behavior. (The Notepad+Windows case seems like botches (individually user-hostile forced reboots and poor handling of state on restart for Windows and Notepad respectively) partially cancelling each other out.)