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In the case of Discord, for example, the terms of service doesn't even mention third-party clients. Also, these services are accessible from web browsers, which

by tumult 4y ago

In the case of Discord, for example, the terms of service doesn't even mention third-party clients. Also, these services are accessible from web browsers, which are made by third parties. There are more reasons, like users being able to run whatever they want on their own computers, but just the ones above are enough.

gtirloni 4y ago
"You may not copy, modify, create derivative works based upon, distribute, sell, lease, or sublicense any of our software or services" This seems to make it pretty clear they don't want you to create 3rd-party clients for their service.
- tumult 4y ago
  Ripcord isn't a derivative work, both practically and in the legal sense. It's implemented from scratch. Ripcord isn't a resell of their service or a sublicense of their service.
  - gtirloni 4y ago
    If I rephrase it like this, does it make it clear? "You may not create derivative works based upon any of our services"
    - tumult 4y ago
      In the imaginary world where that's what the terms of service says, that's still fine for Ripcord -- Ripcord isn't a derivative work.
tptacek 4y ago
If the terms of service allow it, then it doesn't matter what it's fair or not: you're allowed to make a client for it. The discussion is moot.