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Hmm - but that is something of a self-serving argument - in my view. ISIS and the Taliban didn't come out of nowhere. Eg - the Taliban were created and arme
by verisimi 4y ago
Hmm - but that is something of a self-serving argument - in my view.
ISIS and the Taliban didn't come out of nowhere. Eg -
the Taliban were created and armed by the Western countries to create the Mujahideen to fight the Russians in Afganistan. (Its a similar story for ISIS.) And they were 'radicalised' by Arabian money, which the Western countries also created in their setup of the Middle East.
So, there is a strong argument to say, that the Anglo-American empire went to various places, looted them, and created a sh*tshow behind them, which in itself provides a sort of retrospective justification for the looting.
PS Obviously the governments do not advertise their, ahem, "defensive" overseas actions - its understandable not to know, esp if you only follow government provided news services. But if you do know this info, calling the looting "good" on account of all the punishment that the looter then inflicts (or cause to be inflicted) on what is left behind, is perverse.
- robbiep 4y agoI don't think parent's comment is meant to be a dissertation on the roots and origins of conflict, but a reflection on history in general. Does HN always have to descend into a strong-systemiser race to the root cause?
- automatic6131 4y agoYeah that's right, the only people with moral agency are Westerners. Everyone else just reacts from that. Nothing to think about here, just blame The West, we're always wrong. Do not apply the same historicism to Western history either.
- verisimi 4y agoWell, we can call it the West, or we can call it those with power. I live in the West, by my country's actions are nothing to do with me. My leaders do not represent me. I want nothing to do with it. What we are really talking about when we use phrases like 'the West', 'the US', etc is those elites that have manipulated the levers of power for whatever it is that they want to do. The individual people we meet in those countries are nothing to do with it.