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I think some of the people here are paid by the CCP to try to spread propaganda? Maybe not GP but generally ... The 50 Cent Army

theplumber 4y ago
I just can't stand cheap propaganda. Yeah reeducation of muslims in a chinese provice is bad for human rights but saying this is the reason why the U.S is acting against chinese interests makes me puke. Are we all that brainwashed? Has the U.S been unaware of the human rights atrocities commited by Saudi Arabia for the past 100 years? Why is the U.S selling weapons, accepts investments(i.e SA owns Apple stock) and hugs SA? I understand that "simple" people want A "simple" message but I expect a more critical debate here. What's wrong just spelling the truth? i.e: China, a communist state, grown by the U.S(and not only) has become too powerful and now is threating U.S lead world domination(economically and millitary). We must strangle its power and communist influence to preserve our way of life(and our power in the world). I think we are all grown ups here. There is no need to sell a syrupy story. The U.S just left in a hurry the one place where it could have done something for the muslim women so spare me of the U.S concern of musslims reeducation camps in China.
- leaflets2 4y ago
  Agreed about the US and Saudi Arabia and Yemen. And Trump and Biden handed Afghanistan over to the Talibans, they should go to prison for thousands of lifetimes for having done that > Has the U.S been unaware of the human rights atrocities commited by Saudi Arabia I think most people are. But not the politicians
vorpalhex 4y ago
In general, accusing someone of being a shill is a poor move - even if you are right. Instead I would encourage you to follow up with their comments and guide the argument back to it's basic facts - like that China is rounding up Muslims in camps and may be engaging in forced sterilization, and that allowing TikTok may not align with freedom. Obviously don't spam or just blindly become a shill yourself, but just make the shilling activity do the opposite of what a shill might want.
- leaflets2 4y ago
  Hmm I wouldn't use a negatively loaded word like "shill"? It's not the paid trolls who are the problem (some of them might as well have been my friends, had I live at another place. Maybe they need money to feed their kids, who's to blame them for that) -- it's the CCP and Xi who are the problem. > follow up with their comments and guide the argument back to it's basic facts If there was time for that. Do you have time for that? I think there's mostly not time for that. Maybe I'd mostly just delete paid content (CCP propaganda) if it was my forum
- leaflets2 4y ago
  > make the [propaganda] activity do the opposite of what [the CCP] might want I like that idea

theplumber 4y ago

I just can't stand cheap propaganda. Yeah reeducation of muslims in a chinese provice is bad for human rights but saying this is the reason why the U.S is acting against chinese interests makes me puke. Are we all that brainwashed? Has the U.S been unaware of the human rights atrocities commited by Saudi Arabia for the past 100 years? Why is the U.S selling weapons, accepts investments(i.e SA owns Apple stock) and hugs SA? I understand that "simple" people want A "simple" message but I expect a more critical debate here. What's wrong just spelling the truth? i.e: China, a communist state, grown by the U.S(and not only) has become too powerful and now is threating U.S lead world domination(economically and millitary). We must strangle its power and communist influence to preserve our way of life(and our power in the world). I think we are all grown ups here. There is no need to sell a syrupy story. The U.S just left in a hurry the one place where it could have done something for the muslim women so spare me of the U.S concern of musslims reeducation camps in China.

leaflets2 4y ago
Agreed about the US and Saudi Arabia and Yemen. And Trump and Biden handed Afghanistan over to the Talibans, they should go to prison for thousands of lifetimes for having done that > Has the U.S been unaware of the human rights atrocities commited by Saudi Arabia I think most people are. But not the politicians

vorpalhex 4y ago

In general, accusing someone of being a shill is a poor move - even if you are right. Instead I would encourage you to follow up with their comments and guide the argument back to it's basic facts - like that China is rounding up Muslims in camps and may be engaging in forced sterilization, and that allowing TikTok may not align with freedom. Obviously don't spam or just blindly become a shill yourself, but just make the shilling activity do the opposite of what a shill might want.

leaflets2 4y ago
Hmm I wouldn't use a negatively loaded word like "shill"? It's not the paid trolls who are the problem (some of them might as well have been my friends, had I live at another place. Maybe they need money to feed their kids, who's to blame them for that) -- it's the CCP and Xi who are the problem. > follow up with their comments and guide the argument back to it's basic facts If there was time for that. Do you have time for that? I think there's mostly not time for that. Maybe I'd mostly just delete paid content (CCP propaganda) if it was my forum
leaflets2 4y ago
> make the [propaganda] activity do the opposite of what [the CCP] might want I like that idea