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Doom RPG Ported to PC

161 points by ecliptik 4y ago

sph 4y ago
For people like me that do not know what Doom RPG is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_RPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_RPG
- cheschire 4y ago
  I feel terrible for thinking that smartphones and mobile gaming didn't start until the iphone. I wrote off years of other people's hard efforts to establish the space that apple absolutely annihilated. The fact that they had a category for "mobile game of the year" in 2005 just shows how hard people were trying to get smartphones going.
  - stuaxo 4y ago
    I worked making J2ME phone games back then. There was definitely an element of going back to games of 10-20 years before. When I started we were doing sub 100k games, and by the end it was about 1.5mb. It was fun trying to make things that fit into tiny spaces. Nokia and Sony phones could do some very basic 3D, but mostly things were 2D and resources were very tight. I worked in a startup on an MMORPG that was going to work on phones and PCs, it was very low-poly and I tried to base the look on the video for Dire Straits - Money For Nothing.
  - sph 4y ago
    The whole J2ME era was a gimmick that went nowhere, did it? Like most of the 2000s write once run everywhere dream Java had for GUI apps. Sidenote: I would love to read a retrospective of whatever happened to Java on the desktop since. There's an alternate universe out there where we're writing cross platforms apps in Java instead of Electron or Flutter.
    - usrusr 4y ago
      It effectively went nowhere, but it wasn't quite as bad as you might think. On the last pre-smartphone I had I ran offline OSM, in J2ME. Not sure about the one before.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Maybe on US it didn't went anywhere. On Europe Nokia and Sony phones were great at J2ME games, alongside Symbian, naturally like it happens with Android nowadays, when using flagship devices.
    - toast0 4y ago
      J2ME is mostly dead; I think it lives on as an option for interactive content on Blu-Ray though. But just because it's dead now doesn't necessarily mean it was a gimmick that went nowhere, IMHO. Obviously, write once, run everywhere didn't apply. But Nokia Series 40 was J2ME plus some Nokia extras and had pretty big install numbers until it petered out. Of course, I think all the J2ME platforms had platform extras, if not just platform quirks. Of course, Nokia platforms more or less disappeared in the US somewhere 2005ish (reportedly over disputes about shipping phones with a built in SIP client), and their worldwide popular models were virtually invisible to US population and US based tech news; only after moving to Windows Phone 7 did Nokia phones start showing up in the US in volume again. Android didn't want to pay for a J2ME license, so they just put actual Java on there (or cough totally not Java cough, but happens to be mechanically translatable from JVM bytecode, depending on how close to a courtroom you are). Having file streams that you can seek in both directions is super handy, so Android has expanded to fill the niche that J2ME phones took on.
  - ShamelessC 4y ago
    Did you happen to live during it? If not, believe me, pre-iphone "phone games" basically pale in comparison to stuff that came out for the new era of touchscreen smartphones. I don't doubt that there were amazing games but it just wasn't the same and I assume those are great more so because they lean in to the platform's flaws.
    - andrepd 4y ago
      I find it exactly the opposite! There were excellent phone games back then, now it's all microtransaction, spin-to-win/scratch-to-win, ad-infested "experiences" with some inane gameplay on the side, engineered for maximum addictiveness.
    - ljf 4y ago
      Maybe, but there were amazing games on the Motorola A1000 which had a resistive touch screen. Scumm was officially launched on there, plus doom, gb and gbc emulators, plus loads of properly released games - I had a tower defense style war game and a driving game that used to blow people away.
    - hnlmorg 4y ago
      Depends on the device. I had Tomb Raider on my PDA in 2002 and it looked and played just as well as it did on the PC back in 1996. Feature phones like the Sony Ericsson series obviously couldn't handle anything like Tomb Raider but they did an excellent job at stuff that looked reminiscent of the SNES era of gaming. I had a few Zelda-style action RPGs (not Doom RPG weirdly though) that were great fun to play.
      - Bluecobra 4y ago
        Tomb Raider was actually released on the Nokia N-Gage in 2003: https://www.mobygames.com/game/ngage/tomb-raider https://www.mobygames.com/game/ngage/tomb-raider
        hnlmorg 4y ago
        It was released on both (there’s a link for the Windows Mobile version in your citation). I never owned an N-Gage though which is why I didn’t mention it (also my opinion of the N-Gage was never that high). However I did own a PDA. Since we are talking about mobile ports of Tomb Raider, it was also released for the Sony Ericsson range of feature phones too. Albeit in name only because that version was a side on 2D dungeon crawler. I did own that game too but it reminded me more of Roland on the Ropes (Amstrad CPC464) than Tomb Raider. From what I’ve seen there were some quality ports for the N-Gage. Sega Rally looked surprisingly good from the YouTube videos I’ve seen. But I still don’t regret never owning one since it’s firm factor was, frankly, ridiculous.
  - infomax 4y ago
    I remember playing Lock and Load 2 [1] in high school during that era against my classmates via Bluetooth. It was pretty fun! Symbian has been a great OS, something I reaffirmed when I studied Tanenbaum's circus book in college. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC1xI3oGPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC1xI3oGPU
    - Grazester 4y ago
      Symbian was not a great from a development standpoint I understand.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    It really is to Steve Jobs’ credit that he was able to wrestle his phone (mostly) out of the iron grips of the operators. Because that was the reason mobile games worked this way: the operators decided what ran on your phone and the things you wanted apart from that were relegated to the java sandbox, take it or leave it. These days your operator controlled a setting on your phone for how many text messages you could store (on your phone). Pay some extra or be really nice and they changed the setting so you could store 100 messages instead of 50. You can imagine they weren’t too happy to lose that kind of control.
  - Longlius 4y ago
    I was alive during the era and almost no one had commercially released games on their phones. For one thing, storage was incredibly limited. For another, the cost was incredibly high vs what you got - not just the game itself but the actual cost of a plan that would allow you to download the game to your device. Towards the mid-2000s we started getting some rather elaborate 3D titles but then we ran into the problem of a numerical keypad being a pretty bad control scheme for anything more advanced than simple arcade games or turn-based titles. The one market that pre-smartphone phone games did well in was Japan but they had some very high-profile franchise tie-ins and otaku are well-known for buying almost anything.
  - Fargoan 4y ago
    I didn't have a good enough phone for any of these games but I read about them on IGN. It seemed ridiculous at the time, at least from the perspective of a high school video game nerd. Why not just focus on a handheld gaming system and let a phone be a phone? I never imagined the digital Swiss Army knives/pocket computers they would become
  - AtlasBarfed 4y ago
    Pre-iPhone was full of all the elements to make an iPhone, but was clearly lacking business people (even in the mobile industry who were raking in money) to push the investment. PDAs with vibrant full color screens and "acceptable" OSes predated the iPhone. Mobile internet was around for quite a while with awful text interfaces and crap standards. What was probably missing was a good OS. What happened is that anything beyond a text OS, the industry cowered before the might of Microsoft, and Microsoft can't design UI for a damn, they can only copy it, or put the minimum amount in to try to keep other people from succeeding. I don't even want to say Apple did some revolutionary job of making the iPhone OS. They just didn't do a terrible one like Microsoft, or hamstring themselves with bad hardware like Palm. Apple simply made a good OS atop a good hardware integration. And that was enough to vastly separate it from all the beancounter businesspeople and Microsoft incompetence. Microsoft had at least 5 years to establish itself with windows CE and others, but they are just not a competent company when they don't have a monopoly to leverage. I am not a Jobs fan or an Apple fan, especially since they are as or more anticompetitive than Microsoft, but the pre-iPhone scene really was fundamentally hamstrung by failure-almost-by-design on the part of the business people involved, and so Apple gets credit for that. But yeah, kudos to those people that pushed the fundamental paradigms and programming, including Apple with the Newton and Palm that kept it moving forward.
    - lostgame 4y ago
      I dunno; minus the lack of true multitasking (which the iPhone, too; originally lacked), OG PalmOS got really close, especially for the time. By the time we got the HandSpring with it's removable/exchangeable extensions like GPS + MP3's, or the Treo, with it's built-in phone - PalmOS always felt solid and was so amazing on battery life it blew the mind.
- markstos 4y ago
  Ah. I thought the joke was that Doom has ported to so many obscure platforms that it was novel to play it on an actual PC.
bowsamic 4y ago
I remember there being a puzzle in this game where you had to extract data from a database by writing a SQL query, felt like an absolute badass doing that as a kid
- usrusr 4y ago
  Oh, nice! But allow me to object that writing SQL in T9 should feel badass at any age.
thih9 4y ago
Playing j2me games on a phone in some ways felt better than modern smartphone gaming. This is surely nostalgia and I wouldn’t want to go back to these times, if only because of tiny screens. But I will still miss that era, tactile feedback from actual keys, single player gameplay, way less ads or dark patterns, etc.
- baisq 4y ago
  You paid for the game upfront and that was that.
- badsectoracula 4y ago
  Doom RPG was the first game i ever finished on a phone. While from a technical perspective modern smartphones have way more power and they are way more consistent than J2ME phones ever hoped to be[0] the fact that there were physical controls made the old phones -IMO- better for many types of games, like platformers, exploration, first person games, etc. Though on the other hand pretty much all phones had some very slow LCD screens that with fast motion they became all smudgy. Having said that turn-based games like Doom RPG work fine on smartphones. There are some types of games, including dungeon crawlers and "point and click" adventure games (or point and tap i guess :-P) that i expected to flourish in touchscreen devices like mobile phones and tablets, but that didn't end up happening. [0] i was into gamedev J2ME games at the time, working on a couple of projects, eventually abandoned the effort because i was getting bug reports that were impossible for me to debug since instead of Sun having a single VM that everyone would targeted, many manufacturers made their own or used some 3rd party ones - and this ended up having tons of inconsistencies and bugs (i remember even things like devices reporting their screen resolution wrong - how can you get that wrong?). I knew someone who worked at a company testing these J2ME games and he said they had a warehouse full of phones and basically went on to test the games on each one of them - but this was not something i could do myself, so i gave up.
  - thaumasiotes 4y ago
    > There are some types of games, including dungeon crawlers and "point and click" adventure games (or point and tap i guess :-P) that i expected to flourish in touchscreen devices like mobile phones and tablets, but that didn't end up happening. ScummVM is available for touchscreen phones. Pointing directly on the screen doesn't work well, but there should be a mode where you can swipe around to position the cursor and then tap anywhere to send a click at the cursor's location.
ggerganov 4y ago
Tangentially related - you can play a turn-based Doom (1993) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tweet2doom/status/1444355917160534024 https://twitter.com/tweet2doom/status/1444355917160534024 There is a tree explorer that shows you all moves that have been played so far by everyone [0]. If you are interested how I made this, you can check the Github repo [1]. [0] - https://tweet2doom.github.io https://tweet2doom.github.io [1] - https://github.com/ggerganov/tweet2doom https://github.com/ggerganov/tweet2doom
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago
  That is super cool.
- sanqui 4y ago
  Oooh, that's a cool way to visualize branching playthroughs. Great inspiration for potential future projects!
- bogwog 4y ago
  Now we need someone to create a tool that records local gameplay and encodes it into tweet2doom commands.
  - zasdffaa 4y ago
    ...which can be interpreted as a turing machine... which can be used to... to...
rex64 4y ago
I have fond memories of playing Doom RPG on my old Sony-Ericsson on the train ride home from college. The screen was so small that after a few minutes I started feeling like my eyes were on fire. Great game tho.
micromacrofoot 4y ago
Fond memories playing this on my motorola razr
monocasa 4y ago
John Carmack's .plan on creating Doom RPG. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-archive/master/by_year/johnc_plan_2005.txt https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-ar...
- gigaflop 4y ago
  > Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each (often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful performance. I love this blurb. I've been 'on an island'/'in my wizard's tower' at work, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who ends up pulling hair out when docs don't match expectations.
marcodiego 4y ago
I could not understand from the message, but was it freed from BREW?
oblak 4y ago
Best phone game I ever played, that's for sure. I liked it. I don't think I have played any phone games since... wow, it was 2006, right? These days we have phones powerful enough to play Doom 3, probably even Doom 2016. I mean look at the Deck. It's crazy
- entropicdrifter 4y ago
  The Deck is an x86_64 device, basically a tiny laptop in a handheld form-factor. The Nintendo Switch is closer to a phone since it's an ARM device
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    In terms of transistor count, the deck is closer to the latest and greatest iPhone, is it not?
shimonabi 4y ago
Why can't someone create simple instructions of how to run this thing?
- adamrezich 4y ago
  the instructions are all right there: - download and extract the zip file - go to archive.org, go to software, search "doom rpg brew". download and extract the zip file to the same directory - run BarToZip.exe - run DoomRPG.exe
  - shimonabi 4y ago
    Thanks! I must confess I've never heard of this game before.
Acrobatic_Road 4y ago
Same author as the Doom64 source code reverse engineering project. He has two brothers, and all three are big contributors in the doom modding community. https://github.com/Erick194/DOOM64-RE https://github.com/Erick194/DOOM64-RE
jtxt 4y ago
I didn't know about this, watched some gameplay on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3xi0HPrbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3xi0HPrbs Kind of related, lately I've been playing POOM, a surprisingly well made Doom demake with original levels for PICO-8. https://freds72.itch.io/poom https://freds72.itch.io/poom

161 points by ecliptik 4y ago

sph 4y ago

For people like me that do not know what Doom RPG is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_RPG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_RPG

cheschire 4y ago
I feel terrible for thinking that smartphones and mobile gaming didn't start until the iphone. I wrote off years of other people's hard efforts to establish the space that apple absolutely annihilated. The fact that they had a category for "mobile game of the year" in 2005 just shows how hard people were trying to get smartphones going.
- stuaxo 4y ago
  I worked making J2ME phone games back then. There was definitely an element of going back to games of 10-20 years before. When I started we were doing sub 100k games, and by the end it was about 1.5mb. It was fun trying to make things that fit into tiny spaces. Nokia and Sony phones could do some very basic 3D, but mostly things were 2D and resources were very tight. I worked in a startup on an MMORPG that was going to work on phones and PCs, it was very low-poly and I tried to base the look on the video for Dire Straits - Money For Nothing.
- sph 4y ago
  The whole J2ME era was a gimmick that went nowhere, did it? Like most of the 2000s write once run everywhere dream Java had for GUI apps. Sidenote: I would love to read a retrospective of whatever happened to Java on the desktop since. There's an alternate universe out there where we're writing cross platforms apps in Java instead of Electron or Flutter.
  - usrusr 4y ago
    It effectively went nowhere, but it wasn't quite as bad as you might think. On the last pre-smartphone I had I ran offline OSM, in J2ME. Not sure about the one before.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Maybe on US it didn't went anywhere. On Europe Nokia and Sony phones were great at J2ME games, alongside Symbian, naturally like it happens with Android nowadays, when using flagship devices.
  - toast0 4y ago
    J2ME is mostly dead; I think it lives on as an option for interactive content on Blu-Ray though. But just because it's dead now doesn't necessarily mean it was a gimmick that went nowhere, IMHO. Obviously, write once, run everywhere didn't apply. But Nokia Series 40 was J2ME plus some Nokia extras and had pretty big install numbers until it petered out. Of course, I think all the J2ME platforms had platform extras, if not just platform quirks. Of course, Nokia platforms more or less disappeared in the US somewhere 2005ish (reportedly over disputes about shipping phones with a built in SIP client), and their worldwide popular models were virtually invisible to US population and US based tech news; only after moving to Windows Phone 7 did Nokia phones start showing up in the US in volume again. Android didn't want to pay for a J2ME license, so they just put actual Java on there (or cough totally not Java cough, but happens to be mechanically translatable from JVM bytecode, depending on how close to a courtroom you are). Having file streams that you can seek in both directions is super handy, so Android has expanded to fill the niche that J2ME phones took on.
- ShamelessC 4y ago
  Did you happen to live during it? If not, believe me, pre-iphone "phone games" basically pale in comparison to stuff that came out for the new era of touchscreen smartphones. I don't doubt that there were amazing games but it just wasn't the same and I assume those are great more so because they lean in to the platform's flaws.
  - andrepd 4y ago
    I find it exactly the opposite! There were excellent phone games back then, now it's all microtransaction, spin-to-win/scratch-to-win, ad-infested "experiences" with some inane gameplay on the side, engineered for maximum addictiveness.
  - ljf 4y ago
    Maybe, but there were amazing games on the Motorola A1000 which had a resistive touch screen. Scumm was officially launched on there, plus doom, gb and gbc emulators, plus loads of properly released games - I had a tower defense style war game and a driving game that used to blow people away.
  - hnlmorg 4y ago
    Depends on the device. I had Tomb Raider on my PDA in 2002 and it looked and played just as well as it did on the PC back in 1996. Feature phones like the Sony Ericsson series obviously couldn't handle anything like Tomb Raider but they did an excellent job at stuff that looked reminiscent of the SNES era of gaming. I had a few Zelda-style action RPGs (not Doom RPG weirdly though) that were great fun to play.
    - Bluecobra 4y ago
      Tomb Raider was actually released on the Nokia N-Gage in 2003: https://www.mobygames.com/game/ngage/tomb-raider https://www.mobygames.com/game/ngage/tomb-raider
      - hnlmorg 4y ago
        It was released on both (there’s a link for the Windows Mobile version in your citation). I never owned an N-Gage though which is why I didn’t mention it (also my opinion of the N-Gage was never that high). However I did own a PDA. Since we are talking about mobile ports of Tomb Raider, it was also released for the Sony Ericsson range of feature phones too. Albeit in name only because that version was a side on 2D dungeon crawler. I did own that game too but it reminded me more of Roland on the Ropes (Amstrad CPC464) than Tomb Raider. From what I’ve seen there were some quality ports for the N-Gage. Sega Rally looked surprisingly good from the YouTube videos I’ve seen. But I still don’t regret never owning one since it’s firm factor was, frankly, ridiculous.
- infomax 4y ago
  I remember playing Lock and Load 2 [1] in high school during that era against my classmates via Bluetooth. It was pretty fun! Symbian has been a great OS, something I reaffirmed when I studied Tanenbaum's circus book in college. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC1xI3oGPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fC1xI3oGPU
  - Grazester 4y ago
    Symbian was not a great from a development standpoint I understand.
- tinus_hn 4y ago
  It really is to Steve Jobs’ credit that he was able to wrestle his phone (mostly) out of the iron grips of the operators. Because that was the reason mobile games worked this way: the operators decided what ran on your phone and the things you wanted apart from that were relegated to the java sandbox, take it or leave it. These days your operator controlled a setting on your phone for how many text messages you could store (on your phone). Pay some extra or be really nice and they changed the setting so you could store 100 messages instead of 50. You can imagine they weren’t too happy to lose that kind of control.
- Longlius 4y ago
  I was alive during the era and almost no one had commercially released games on their phones. For one thing, storage was incredibly limited. For another, the cost was incredibly high vs what you got - not just the game itself but the actual cost of a plan that would allow you to download the game to your device. Towards the mid-2000s we started getting some rather elaborate 3D titles but then we ran into the problem of a numerical keypad being a pretty bad control scheme for anything more advanced than simple arcade games or turn-based titles. The one market that pre-smartphone phone games did well in was Japan but they had some very high-profile franchise tie-ins and otaku are well-known for buying almost anything.
- Fargoan 4y ago
  I didn't have a good enough phone for any of these games but I read about them on IGN. It seemed ridiculous at the time, at least from the perspective of a high school video game nerd. Why not just focus on a handheld gaming system and let a phone be a phone? I never imagined the digital Swiss Army knives/pocket computers they would become
- AtlasBarfed 4y ago
  Pre-iPhone was full of all the elements to make an iPhone, but was clearly lacking business people (even in the mobile industry who were raking in money) to push the investment. PDAs with vibrant full color screens and "acceptable" OSes predated the iPhone. Mobile internet was around for quite a while with awful text interfaces and crap standards. What was probably missing was a good OS. What happened is that anything beyond a text OS, the industry cowered before the might of Microsoft, and Microsoft can't design UI for a damn, they can only copy it, or put the minimum amount in to try to keep other people from succeeding. I don't even want to say Apple did some revolutionary job of making the iPhone OS. They just didn't do a terrible one like Microsoft, or hamstring themselves with bad hardware like Palm. Apple simply made a good OS atop a good hardware integration. And that was enough to vastly separate it from all the beancounter businesspeople and Microsoft incompetence. Microsoft had at least 5 years to establish itself with windows CE and others, but they are just not a competent company when they don't have a monopoly to leverage. I am not a Jobs fan or an Apple fan, especially since they are as or more anticompetitive than Microsoft, but the pre-iPhone scene really was fundamentally hamstrung by failure-almost-by-design on the part of the business people involved, and so Apple gets credit for that. But yeah, kudos to those people that pushed the fundamental paradigms and programming, including Apple with the Newton and Palm that kept it moving forward.
  - lostgame 4y ago
    I dunno; minus the lack of true multitasking (which the iPhone, too; originally lacked), OG PalmOS got really close, especially for the time. By the time we got the HandSpring with it's removable/exchangeable extensions like GPS + MP3's, or the Treo, with it's built-in phone - PalmOS always felt solid and was so amazing on battery life it blew the mind.
markstos 4y ago
Ah. I thought the joke was that Doom has ported to so many obscure platforms that it was novel to play it on an actual PC.

bowsamic 4y ago

I remember there being a puzzle in this game where you had to extract data from a database by writing a SQL query, felt like an absolute badass doing that as a kid

usrusr 4y ago
Oh, nice! But allow me to object that writing SQL in T9 should feel badass at any age.

thih9 4y ago

Playing j2me games on a phone in some ways felt better than modern smartphone gaming. This is surely nostalgia and I wouldn’t want to go back to these times, if only because of tiny screens. But I will still miss that era, tactile feedback from actual keys, single player gameplay, way less ads or dark patterns, etc.

baisq 4y ago
You paid for the game upfront and that was that.
badsectoracula 4y ago
Doom RPG was the first game i ever finished on a phone. While from a technical perspective modern smartphones have way more power and they are way more consistent than J2ME phones ever hoped to be[0] the fact that there were physical controls made the old phones -IMO- better for many types of games, like platformers, exploration, first person games, etc. Though on the other hand pretty much all phones had some very slow LCD screens that with fast motion they became all smudgy. Having said that turn-based games like Doom RPG work fine on smartphones. There are some types of games, including dungeon crawlers and "point and click" adventure games (or point and tap i guess :-P) that i expected to flourish in touchscreen devices like mobile phones and tablets, but that didn't end up happening. [0] i was into gamedev J2ME games at the time, working on a couple of projects, eventually abandoned the effort because i was getting bug reports that were impossible for me to debug since instead of Sun having a single VM that everyone would targeted, many manufacturers made their own or used some 3rd party ones - and this ended up having tons of inconsistencies and bugs (i remember even things like devices reporting their screen resolution wrong - how can you get that wrong?). I knew someone who worked at a company testing these J2ME games and he said they had a warehouse full of phones and basically went on to test the games on each one of them - but this was not something i could do myself, so i gave up.
- thaumasiotes 4y ago
  > There are some types of games, including dungeon crawlers and "point and click" adventure games (or point and tap i guess :-P) that i expected to flourish in touchscreen devices like mobile phones and tablets, but that didn't end up happening. ScummVM is available for touchscreen phones. Pointing directly on the screen doesn't work well, but there should be a mode where you can swipe around to position the cursor and then tap anywhere to send a click at the cursor's location.

ggerganov 4y ago

Tangentially related - you can play a turn-based Doom (1993) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tweet2doom/status/1444355917160534024 https://twitter.com/tweet2doom/status/1444355917160534024 There is a tree explorer that shows you all moves that have been played so far by everyone [0]. If you are interested how I made this, you can check the Github repo [1]. [0] - https://tweet2doom.github.io https://tweet2doom.github.io [1] - https://github.com/ggerganov/tweet2doom https://github.com/ggerganov/tweet2doom

TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago
That is super cool.
sanqui 4y ago
Oooh, that's a cool way to visualize branching playthroughs. Great inspiration for potential future projects!
bogwog 4y ago
Now we need someone to create a tool that records local gameplay and encodes it into tweet2doom commands.
- zasdffaa 4y ago
  ...which can be interpreted as a turing machine... which can be used to... to...

rex64 4y ago

I have fond memories of playing Doom RPG on my old Sony-Ericsson on the train ride home from college. The screen was so small that after a few minutes I started feeling like my eyes were on fire. Great game tho.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

Fond memories playing this on my motorola razr

monocasa 4y ago

John Carmack's .plan on creating Doom RPG. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-archive/master/by_year/johnc_plan_2005.txt https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ESWAT/john-carmack-plan-ar...

gigaflop 4y ago
> Write-once-run-anywhere. Ha. Hahahahaha. We are only testing on four platforms right now, and not a single pair has the exact same quirks. All the commercial games are tweaked and compiled individually for each (often 100+) platform. Portability is not a justification for the awful performance. I love this blurb. I've been 'on an island'/'in my wizard's tower' at work, and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who ends up pulling hair out when docs don't match expectations.

marcodiego 4y ago

I could not understand from the message, but was it freed from BREW?

oblak 4y ago

Best phone game I ever played, that's for sure. I liked it. I don't think I have played any phone games since... wow, it was 2006, right? These days we have phones powerful enough to play Doom 3, probably even Doom 2016. I mean look at the Deck. It's crazy

entropicdrifter 4y ago
The Deck is an x86_64 device, basically a tiny laptop in a handheld form-factor. The Nintendo Switch is closer to a phone since it's an ARM device
- beebeepka 4y ago
  In terms of transistor count, the deck is closer to the latest and greatest iPhone, is it not?

shimonabi 4y ago

Why can't someone create simple instructions of how to run this thing?

adamrezich 4y ago
the instructions are all right there: - download and extract the zip file - go to archive.org, go to software, search "doom rpg brew". download and extract the zip file to the same directory - run BarToZip.exe - run DoomRPG.exe
- shimonabi 4y ago
  Thanks! I must confess I've never heard of this game before.

Acrobatic_Road 4y ago

Same author as the Doom64 source code reverse engineering project. He has two brothers, and all three are big contributors in the doom modding community. https://github.com/Erick194/DOOM64-RE https://github.com/Erick194/DOOM64-RE

jtxt 4y ago

I didn't know about this, watched some gameplay on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3xi0HPrbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3xi0HPrbs Kind of related, lately I've been playing POOM, a surprisingly well made Doom demake with original levels for PICO-8. https://freds72.itch.io/poom https://freds72.itch.io/poom