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I don't really know how this is (will be) different from the current iDin system? This system allows one to identify him/her self via, for example, a banking

I don't really know how this is (will be) different from the current iDin system? This system allows one to identify him/her self via, for example, a banking app. https://www.ct.nl/nieuws/idin-identificatie/ https://www.ct.nl/nieuws/idin-identificatie/ https://www.idin.nl/ https://www.idin.nl/ https://www.consumentenbond.nl/betaalrekening/idin https://www.consumentenbond.nl/betaalrekening/idin I realize now that I can only find Dutch links to this system, so I am assuming The Kingdom of the Netherlands is simply ahead of the EU crows?

scrollaway 4y ago
Several countries in Europe have rolled their own. This system is an attempt to digitize the countries that haven't, and standardize the countries that have (and make it work EU-wide, so it works better for citizens moving between countries).
onetoo 4y ago
I believe most European countries have their own solutions similar to this. e.g. in Denmark we have NemID/MitID as the way to digitally authenticate yourself to the healthcare system, your bank, etc. If I understand correctly, this EU initiative would unify all these separate country-level identification tools into something that works EU-wide, so I can take my Danish digital ID and e.g. use it in a bank in the Netherlands.
Heliosmaster 4y ago
Each country has their own system. in NL we had DigID, and apparently now iDin (first time i hear about it). In Italy we have SPID who uses a bunch of external providers (phone companies, italian posts, internet providers, ...). The whole idea is to create an interoperable standard.
einarfd 4y ago
The article does point out that several countries have these kind of systems but they are not cross border. Solving that is supposed to be part of this initiative. Being able too use a swedish issued id to authenticate in the Netherland would imo be a nice and a big step forward.
- Avamander 4y ago
  > Being able too use a swedish issued id to authenticate in the Netherland would imo be a nice and a big step forward. That's unfortunately caused by the proprietary solutions chosen, BankID and similar. If Sweden and Netherlands had gone with very widely supported Smart Cards (like Finland, Estonia and Latvia), they would interoperate trivially. Especially with the advent of eIDAS. Hopefully this legislation forces proprietary implementations to become more open.

scrollaway 4y ago

Several countries in Europe have rolled their own. This system is an attempt to digitize the countries that haven't, and standardize the countries that have (and make it work EU-wide, so it works better for citizens moving between countries).

onetoo 4y ago

I believe most European countries have their own solutions similar to this. e.g. in Denmark we have NemID/MitID as the way to digitally authenticate yourself to the healthcare system, your bank, etc. If I understand correctly, this EU initiative would unify all these separate country-level identification tools into something that works EU-wide, so I can take my Danish digital ID and e.g. use it in a bank in the Netherlands.

Heliosmaster 4y ago

Each country has their own system. in NL we had DigID, and apparently now iDin (first time i hear about it). In Italy we have SPID who uses a bunch of external providers (phone companies, italian posts, internet providers, ...). The whole idea is to create an interoperable standard.

einarfd 4y ago

The article does point out that several countries have these kind of systems but they are not cross border. Solving that is supposed to be part of this initiative. Being able too use a swedish issued id to authenticate in the Netherland would imo be a nice and a big step forward.

Avamander 4y ago
> Being able too use a swedish issued id to authenticate in the Netherland would imo be a nice and a big step forward. That's unfortunately caused by the proprietary solutions chosen, BankID and similar. If Sweden and Netherlands had gone with very widely supported Smart Cards (like Finland, Estonia and Latvia), they would interoperate trivially. Especially with the advent of eIDAS. Hopefully this legislation forces proprietary implementations to become more open.