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> What happens if I don't want to identify myself? It is already an offence in several EU countries to fail to present official ID documents when asked by the

> What happens if I don't want to identify myself? It is already an offence in several EU countries to fail to present official ID documents when asked by the police. If you don't want to identity yourself the outcome will likely depend on the mood of the police office. They may give you a verbal warning and send you on your way or they may choose to arrest you until they can ascertain your identity.

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iasay 4y ago
Yes the police for sure, but this is normalising full ID verification everywhere. At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken.
- xxs 4y ago
  >Yes the police for sure, but this is normalising full ID verification everywhere. The UK is not a part of the EU any longer, for pretty much all of the rest member states, that has not been an issue for quite some time... save for Ireland. >At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken. The issued ID plastic cards would be as useful when you are present in person.
- d8c6c050cb0a4d7 4y ago
  That's already the case. Since you must be able to identify yourself when asked, you have an obligation to carry your identification with you. I believe the obligation to carry identification, and to have identification are enforced differently in different countries / states. But there is more information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation_of_identification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation_of_identification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the_European_Economic_Area#Overview_of_national_identity_cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the... > At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken. Not wanting to identify yourself and not being able to identify yourself are two seperate topics. I sympathise with people who fall outside of the system, but e-identity is currently a matter of convenience for people who already have identity documents and are seeking easier ways of accessing services online.

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iasay 4y ago

Yes the police for sure, but this is normalising full ID verification everywhere. At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken.

xxs 4y ago
>Yes the police for sure, but this is normalising full ID verification everywhere. The UK is not a part of the EU any longer, for pretty much all of the rest member states, that has not been an issue for quite some time... save for Ireland. >At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken. The issued ID plastic cards would be as useful when you are present in person.
d8c6c050cb0a4d7 4y ago
That's already the case. Since you must be able to identify yourself when asked, you have an obligation to carry your identification with you. I believe the obligation to carry identification, and to have identification are enforced differently in different countries / states. But there is more information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation_of_identification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obligation_of_identification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the_European_Economic_Area#Overview_of_national_identity_cards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity_cards_in_the... > At some point there will be a situation where you cannot do anything because you are in the 0.01% of the system that is broken. Not wanting to identify yourself and not being able to identify yourself are two seperate topics. I sympathise with people who fall outside of the system, but e-identity is currently a matter of convenience for people who already have identity documents and are seeking easier ways of accessing services online.