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Climate catastrophy arguments needs more scrutiny. The error bars are huge. https://twitter.com/birdhillcap/status/1541812452760776705 https://twitter.com/bird

Climate catastrophy arguments needs more scrutiny. The error bars are huge. https://twitter.com/birdhillcap/status/1541812452760776705 https://twitter.com/birdhillcap/status/1541812452760776705 https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1541768533004148738 https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1541768533004148738 https://twitter.com/luisbaram/status/1523671791062843393 https://twitter.com/luisbaram/status/1523671791062843393 https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1529809797582815244 https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1529809797582815244 There is a bigger problem. Those who scrutinize climate change are punished by the society even though we need legit scientists and people that debunk overarching claims. You could accept CC arguments but still be a critic of some of the insane claims going on today. It's like the early COVID days. Can't criticize. Can't speak against the mob. Can't do science without scrutiny.

chimprich 4y ago
> Climate catastrophy arguments needs more scrutiny. Right, so your sources for this is a few Twitter posts. Let's take a look. The first one is a supposed quote from Al Gore, but he never said that. Even if he did, Al Gore getting something wrong would hardly disprove anything about climate science. > Those who scrutinize climate change are punished by the society You're parroting untrue claims. How about some self-awareness?
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  I didn’t spend more time looking for more and I’m not interested in defending myself. The main general point still stands. All I’m asking for is some scrutiny. By the time information reaches from scientists to reporters and policy makers, there is a lot of malaise and omission of inconvenient truths. We need more checks and balances. Climate alarmicism is getting out of control. It's become a religion. Scientists that want to report inconvenient results are terrified. Edit: I found some more: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-e...
  - ncmncm 4y ago
    No, climate alarmism is not out of control. It is barely loud enough to hear. Did it even get mentioned at G7? The inconvenient truth is that far too little is happening, and doing enough would be overwhelmingly cheaper. Quibbling has outsize impact interfering with action.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      I feel like it is the opposite. I just bought Levi's jeans. There is so much sustainable/green washing on the labels, it is insane. I've heard from friends who believe that we should depopulate the planet by 100x. Anti-human arguments all over the media.
      - ncmncm 4y ago
        You are in a bubble.
        forum_ghost 4y ago
        I second systemvoltage's lived experience. I've seen the same across two continents. Sure, it could be a bubble, just big enough of a bubble to envelope the entire West.
        ncmncm 4y ago
        Greenwashing is not evidence of anything happening. It is by definition something trotted out in place of something happening.
        forum_ghost 4y ago
        dredmorbius 4y ago
jfim 4y ago
The big issue is that counter arguments to climate change typically tend to be used as a justification for inaction, as flawed as that reasoning is. We're already at well over three decades of climate inaction.

chimprich 4y ago

> Climate catastrophy arguments needs more scrutiny. Right, so your sources for this is a few Twitter posts. Let's take a look. The first one is a supposed quote from Al Gore, but he never said that. Even if he did, Al Gore getting something wrong would hardly disprove anything about climate science. > Those who scrutinize climate change are punished by the society You're parroting untrue claims. How about some self-awareness?

systemvoltage 4y ago
I didn’t spend more time looking for more and I’m not interested in defending myself. The main general point still stands. All I’m asking for is some scrutiny. By the time information reaches from scientists to reporters and policy makers, there is a lot of malaise and omission of inconvenient truths. We need more checks and balances. Climate alarmicism is getting out of control. It's become a religion. Scientists that want to report inconvenient results are terrified. Edit: I found some more: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-e...
- ncmncm 4y ago
  No, climate alarmism is not out of control. It is barely loud enough to hear. Did it even get mentioned at G7? The inconvenient truth is that far too little is happening, and doing enough would be overwhelmingly cheaper. Quibbling has outsize impact interfering with action.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    I feel like it is the opposite. I just bought Levi's jeans. There is so much sustainable/green washing on the labels, it is insane. I've heard from friends who believe that we should depopulate the planet by 100x. Anti-human arguments all over the media.
    - ncmncm 4y ago
      You are in a bubble.
      - forum_ghost 4y ago
        I second systemvoltage's lived experience. I've seen the same across two continents. Sure, it could be a bubble, just big enough of a bubble to envelope the entire West.
        ncmncm 4y ago
        Greenwashing is not evidence of anything happening. It is by definition something trotted out in place of something happening.
        forum_ghost 4y ago
        dredmorbius 4y ago

jfim 4y ago

The big issue is that counter arguments to climate change typically tend to be used as a justification for inaction, as flawed as that reasoning is. We're already at well over three decades of climate inaction.