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I hear you! What do you propose is the future instead? Curious to hear about what you're working on, we need people working across all areas of planetary soluti

by tito 4y ago

I hear you! What do you propose is the future instead? Curious to hear about what you're working on, we need people working across all areas of planetary solutions.

Alupis 4y ago
I don't personally know, and frankly, I don't think anyone actually knows. What we have here is a "Carbon Rush" and everyone who gets in early will get rich but likely end up accomplishing nothing (or make things worse in unforeseeable ways). Sorry to be so blunt, but the numbers and schemes that come out of these things are woefully unrealistic. In addition, none of these schemes make any difference so long as developing nations (and some developed nations) continue to produce emissions at staggering rates. All the efforts here are wasted if, say China, builds even one new coal plant. So, a best guess at a solution is to stop wasting time trying to extract and hide emissions, and instead work to further pursue technology that produces less emissions from the start. Manufacturing would be a great place to start, because even this DAC machine is going to produce a massive amount of emissions during production... all the way down to the trucks mining the raw materials for the forge. But those are hard, difficult problems to solve... and aren't "sexy", which denies quick VC money and grants.
- tito 4y ago
  Reducing emissions from the start, manufacturing, all sound like important parts of the solution! If you're looking for resources to get started, I linked Project Drawdown and others in another comment in this thread.
  - Alupis 4y ago
    These are not things just anyone can just jump into. Making it sound like so just diminishes how truly difficult these problems really are. These solutions require deep industry knowledge and buy-in, deep understanding of the problem space, and deep pockets to front unproven technology that nobody will adopt until it solves their problems better than the current solutions. ie. you are not going to revolutionize mining just because you want it to be more green. It doesn't matter how much money have, and how many domain-novices you employ. The mining/farming/manufacturing/whatever industry will not even entertain your product unless it's objectively better. No industry actually cares about being more environmentally friendly at the trade off of reduced production and efficiency, or increased costs - all things that come along with unproven technology developed by people that had little-to-zero understanding of that industry's problems in the first place.

by tito 4y ago

I hear you! What do you propose is the future instead? Curious to hear about what you're working on, we need people working across all areas of planetary solutions.

Alupis 4y ago

I don't personally know, and frankly, I don't think anyone actually knows. What we have here is a "Carbon Rush" and everyone who gets in early will get rich but likely end up accomplishing nothing (or make things worse in unforeseeable ways). Sorry to be so blunt, but the numbers and schemes that come out of these things are woefully unrealistic. In addition, none of these schemes make any difference so long as developing nations (and some developed nations) continue to produce emissions at staggering rates. All the efforts here are wasted if, say China, builds even one new coal plant. So, a best guess at a solution is to stop wasting time trying to extract and hide emissions, and instead work to further pursue technology that produces less emissions from the start. Manufacturing would be a great place to start, because even this DAC machine is going to produce a massive amount of emissions during production... all the way down to the trucks mining the raw materials for the forge. But those are hard, difficult problems to solve... and aren't "sexy", which denies quick VC money and grants.

tito 4y ago
Reducing emissions from the start, manufacturing, all sound like important parts of the solution! If you're looking for resources to get started, I linked Project Drawdown and others in another comment in this thread.
- Alupis 4y ago
  These are not things just anyone can just jump into. Making it sound like so just diminishes how truly difficult these problems really are. These solutions require deep industry knowledge and buy-in, deep understanding of the problem space, and deep pockets to front unproven technology that nobody will adopt until it solves their problems better than the current solutions. ie. you are not going to revolutionize mining just because you want it to be more green. It doesn't matter how much money have, and how many domain-novices you employ. The mining/farming/manufacturing/whatever industry will not even entertain your product unless it's objectively better. No industry actually cares about being more environmentally friendly at the trade off of reduced production and efficiency, or increased costs - all things that come along with unproven technology developed by people that had little-to-zero understanding of that industry's problems in the first place.