> Again, that's your opinion that it's unreasonable. First of all, I specifically started off my original post saying that everything that followed is my subje

> Again, that's your opinion that it's unreasonable. First of all, I specifically started off my original post saying that everything that followed is my subjective, personal opinion and experiences. What exactly did you expect trying to argue with me about it? > Netherlands minimum wage is 10.14 EUR/h [2] while CA minimum wage is $14-15/h [3]. And in practice, the wages for low skill workers in CA So we're cherry-picking US states and EU countries now instead of going by averages? > > No. He will statistically die sooner, receive some of the worst healthcare in the entire world, live in the midst of poverty and crime, etc etc etc. > You are trying to make inferences about a high earner from statistics about the median. That's egregiously incorrect. Higher earners are still almost equally affected by any of the issues above, as are you. My statement stands. > Again, that's your opinion that it's unreasonable. As long as skilled workers continue to migrate from EU to the US due to the higher wages, your opinion is irrelevant. And if you take a look at the makeup of any top ranked master's or PhD program today in STEM or business in the US, you will see that it is 30% European, 30% Chinese, 30% Indian. So I think the market does not really care about your opinion. .. so? We also have a lot of US citizens living here and our universities are filled with expats from all over the world. Also, BTW.. these students you mention will mostly be left with horrendous, crippling student debt. Ours will have 0 in student debt because all education is free, so people are also studying for longer periods of time, maybe even your doctor. > These things are caused by a failure to build housing and prosecute petty theft, not by high wages. Not by high wages, by disproportionally high or low wages. There is enough housing in the US already. There is just simply no way to afford it for anyone but high-skill workers because of this. Combine that with the absolute lack of social housing or regulation and poverty and you arrive at exactly the inevitable rise of homelessness and crime that you think needs to be cracked down upon instead of fixed at its root. > Again, that's not supported by the data [1]. I cannot see any of your data taking into account other expenses and correlations to expenses that the US population is affected by and EU citizens are not. Obviously the tax rate on paper is lower, but that wasn't my point to begin with. Let's just leave it at that. You have your opinion, I have my opinion, end results matter and statistics are speaking loud and clearly.