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far more cheap it's regulating weapons like we do on Europe.

_-david-_ 4y ago
How do you expect that to work in the US?
karencarits 4y ago
I would normally have supported you without reservation, but after the shooting in Oslo, Norway last weekend - two killed, about twenty harmed, Pride/the LGBTQ+ community was probably the target and all Pride arrangements in most major cities are cancelled/delayed (50 year anniversary for decriminalization of msm) - I am less optimistic The shooter has multiple convictions for violence, is treated for paranoid schizophrenia, had known relations to a radicalized Islamist community, and was interviewed by the security service in May. He had about every red flag you can think of. Yet, he was able to get access to a an automatic weapon of some sort, despite the regulations having become stricter after the terror attack in 2011
- usrn 4y ago
  It's the state of the people, not the law, that determines how safe a place is. The law can debase people and it can point them towards morality, but just taking guns away won't do either of those things.
  - landemva 4y ago
    Well said and succinct. Prisons are an example - rules make it safe; people make it violent.
omginternets 4y ago
Unfortunately, the US is not Europe. There are already millions of guns in circulation, and a relatively porous border to the south through which enormous volumes of smuggling routinely take place. Even if you were able to muster support for a blanket ban on firearms, you would need to propose a credible means through which to recover the guns in circulation and prevent their replacement through illegal traffic. It would behoove your analysis to consider American gun legislation through this lens. It might even prompt an original thought.
- tenebrisalietum 4y ago
  Cancel student loans for guns program.
  - omginternets 4y ago
    I’ll bite. And the second part?
  - jpindar 4y ago
    As with so many gun contol measures, that will vastly increase gun sales, just for a different reason. They'll immediately be traded in, but still, good money for the manufacturers and retailers.
    - madengr 4y ago
    - tenebrisalietum 4y ago
      If gun manufacturers want to make school free, fine. What else should be free next, healthcare?
  - Jerrrry 4y ago
    The Venn diagram of responsible gun owners and fiscally irresponsible entitled lazy bones is two disjointed circles.

How do you expect that to work in the US?

I would normally have supported you without reservation, but after the shooting in Oslo, Norway last weekend - two killed, about twenty harmed, Pride/the LGBTQ+ community was probably the target and all Pride arrangements in most major cities are cancelled/delayed (50 year anniversary for decriminalization of msm) - I am less optimistic The shooter has multiple convictions for violence, is treated for paranoid schizophrenia, had known relations to a radicalized Islamist community, and was interviewed by the security service in May. He had about every red flag you can think of. Yet, he was able to get access to a an automatic weapon of some sort, despite the regulations having become stricter after the terror attack in 2011

usrn 4y ago
It's the state of the people, not the law, that determines how safe a place is. The law can debase people and it can point them towards morality, but just taking guns away won't do either of those things.
- landemva 4y ago
  Well said and succinct. Prisons are an example - rules make it safe; people make it violent.

omginternets 4y ago

Unfortunately, the US is not Europe. There are already millions of guns in circulation, and a relatively porous border to the south through which enormous volumes of smuggling routinely take place. Even if you were able to muster support for a blanket ban on firearms, you would need to propose a credible means through which to recover the guns in circulation and prevent their replacement through illegal traffic. It would behoove your analysis to consider American gun legislation through this lens. It might even prompt an original thought.

tenebrisalietum 4y ago
Cancel student loans for guns program.
- omginternets 4y ago
  I’ll bite. And the second part?
- jpindar 4y ago
  As with so many gun contol measures, that will vastly increase gun sales, just for a different reason. They'll immediately be traded in, but still, good money for the manufacturers and retailers.
  - madengr 4y ago
  - tenebrisalietum 4y ago
    If gun manufacturers want to make school free, fine. What else should be free next, healthcare?
- Jerrrry 4y ago
  The Venn diagram of responsible gun owners and fiscally irresponsible entitled lazy bones is two disjointed circles.