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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_shitgibbons https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_shitgibbons [^] --> Category:Shitgibbons_by_languag

by mgdlbp 4y ago

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_shitgibbons https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_shitgibbons [^] --> Category:Shitgibbons_by_language [v] --> Category:German_shitgibbons [v] --> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Arschgeige https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Arschgeige “assviolin”

jefurii 4y ago
Trumpet seems to be the only musical instrument that's used as a pejorative. Why not "assclarinet" or "drumtwat"? Is it because the trumpet kinda sounds like a fart [full disclosure: trumpet player], and if so why not trombone or tuba, which sound much more like farts to my ear. "Ass-tuba". On a related note, there was a short-lived punk band in the 1980s called the Butt Trumpets.
- skykooler 4y ago
  My guess is its abundance of plosive consonants as compared to most other instrument names.
- icameron 4y ago
  Butt Trumpet was also the name of a plugin for back orifice windows trojan from the late 90's... a very memorable name, and custom icon.
  - jefurii 4y ago
    Maybe related to Trumpet Winsock?
  - lgas 4y ago
    Was it related to Back Orifice?
- stevage 4y ago
  Whistle sounds like it could work as well.
  - bckr 4y ago
    "you fartwhistle" that's excellent
- abeppu 4y ago
  The link above to the definition of shitgibbon specifically says that the second word should be a trochee (first syllable stressed, second unstressed). I do think "tuba" works better than "trombone". But I also think that consonant clusters probably help. "banjo"? I think homophones probably dilute the effect so "organ", "cymbal" are out.
  - mgdlbp 4y ago
    It took less than a week to Baader-Meinhof on this. Dutch has klootviol, "ballsviolin". But why that particular chordophone in both languages? How about our Germanic language? "fiddle" is synonymous and has the proper metre. A regex dictionary search finds "bumfiddle(r)", which is only coincidentally close to "assviolin", having come from one of the other senses of "fiddle": https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/294173/what-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-bumfiddler https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/294173/what-is-t...
- maxerickson 4y ago
  It's because trumpet players are assholes.
- jcims 4y ago
  Also Dizzie Gillespie’s face at full power.
- hodgesrm 4y ago
  > Trumpet seems to be the only musical instrument that's used as a pejorative. It is my pleasure to report from the German language that "Arschtrompete" (literally "Asstrumpet", figuratively "loser") is also at your service.
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  You would think that guitar face https://blog.truefire.com/favorites/10-artists-with-the-best-guitar-faces/ https://blog.truefire.com/favorites/10-artists-with-the-best... would lead to a pejorative being coined.
thedailymail 4y ago
The shitgibbon definition is surprisingly specific about the metric composition of the pejorative compound, indicating that it must be antibacchic, which means two stressed syllables followed by an unstressed. So "assmonkey" and "twatwaffle" fit the bill, but common forms such as "asshat" and "dickwad" do not.

by mgdlbp 4y ago

jefurii 4y ago

Trumpet seems to be the only musical instrument that's used as a pejorative. Why not "assclarinet" or "drumtwat"? Is it because the trumpet kinda sounds like a fart [full disclosure: trumpet player], and if so why not trombone or tuba, which sound much more like farts to my ear. "Ass-tuba". On a related note, there was a short-lived punk band in the 1980s called the Butt Trumpets.

skykooler 4y ago
My guess is its abundance of plosive consonants as compared to most other instrument names.
icameron 4y ago
Butt Trumpet was also the name of a plugin for back orifice windows trojan from the late 90's... a very memorable name, and custom icon.
- jefurii 4y ago
  Maybe related to Trumpet Winsock?
- lgas 4y ago
  Was it related to Back Orifice?
stevage 4y ago
Whistle sounds like it could work as well.
- bckr 4y ago
  "you fartwhistle" that's excellent
abeppu 4y ago
The link above to the definition of shitgibbon specifically says that the second word should be a trochee (first syllable stressed, second unstressed). I do think "tuba" works better than "trombone". But I also think that consonant clusters probably help. "banjo"? I think homophones probably dilute the effect so "organ", "cymbal" are out.
- mgdlbp 4y ago
  It took less than a week to Baader-Meinhof on this. Dutch has klootviol, "ballsviolin". But why that particular chordophone in both languages? How about our Germanic language? "fiddle" is synonymous and has the proper metre. A regex dictionary search finds "bumfiddle(r)", which is only coincidentally close to "assviolin", having come from one of the other senses of "fiddle": https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/294173/what-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-bumfiddler https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/294173/what-is-t...
maxerickson 4y ago
It's because trumpet players are assholes.
jcims 4y ago
Also Dizzie Gillespie’s face at full power.
hodgesrm 4y ago
> Trumpet seems to be the only musical instrument that's used as a pejorative. It is my pleasure to report from the German language that "Arschtrompete" (literally "Asstrumpet", figuratively "loser") is also at your service.
bryanrasmussen 4y ago
You would think that guitar face https://blog.truefire.com/favorites/10-artists-with-the-best-guitar-faces/ https://blog.truefire.com/favorites/10-artists-with-the-best... would lead to a pejorative being coined.

thedailymail 4y ago

The shitgibbon definition is surprisingly specific about the metric composition of the pejorative compound, indicating that it must be antibacchic, which means two stressed syllables followed by an unstressed. So "assmonkey" and "twatwaffle" fit the bill, but common forms such as "asshat" and "dickwad" do not.