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I cannot see how this is bad for competition. Within the App Store, the apps are subject to the same restrictions and it is fair competition. Outside of the App

I cannot see how this is bad for competition. Within the App Store, the apps are subject to the same restrictions and it is fair competition. Outside of the App Store, you are not subject to the restrictions, and hopefully you can - and you should - build something that is impossible to achieve under the App Store restrictions, and you get your competitive advantages. If you just hate the App Store idea, and you don't really have anything that cannot be done with the sandbox restrictions, well, if your customers like the App Store, I guess you should be out of business anyway. This is pure Darwinism.

recoiledsnake 15y ago
The problem is visibility and the appearance of security. A significant number of users won't search beyond the app store and just assume that such apps do not exist if they can't find it on the App store. They are conditioned to do that from their iOS experience, so indeed this is a new bigger hurdle for the non-sandboxed apps and for some(not all) it could mean going out of business inspite of having a good product right now. Also, some people will be conditioned to thinking(rightly or wrongly) App Store = safe, Web programs = unsafe. > if your customers like the App Store, Of course they will like it, it's front and center and easy to operate. How is that the dev's fault? >This is pure Darwinism. This is nothing like Darwinism. Perhaps it would be, if you assume that the sunlight, forest cover, predators and water supply were able to be controlled by a company. If you include advanced features in your app and thus are pushed out to an external distribution but your competitor releases with only limited features, who is going to make more money? And forget about a Lite version linking to the Pro one, that's prohibited too. The only "evolution" that will happen is that this will lead many small and mid developers to cut out features and operate only within a sandbox so as to get traction.
Duff 15y ago
Huh? So if I operate another marketplace/platform for delivering computer programs, say Steam, I should be out of business? How is destroying the competitive marketplace good for competition?
CJefferson 15y ago
Except of course, the App Store gets dropped into the dock of every Mac bought. I wonder (and just thinking out loud here) if there might end up being an 'app store' anti-trust suite, with Apple and Microsoft being forced to give things like Steam prominence?
- yardie 15y ago
  Every version of Windows back to 95 has included a link to the Microsoft Marketplace in the Start menu. I've never heard Valve or any other competitor complain about it.
  - mayanksinghal 15y ago
    Microsoft Marketplace? I have been using Windows for the past 14 years - I haven't seen one.

recoiledsnake 15y ago

The problem is visibility and the appearance of security. A significant number of users won't search beyond the app store and just assume that such apps do not exist if they can't find it on the App store. They are conditioned to do that from their iOS experience, so indeed this is a new bigger hurdle for the non-sandboxed apps and for some(not all) it could mean going out of business inspite of having a good product right now. Also, some people will be conditioned to thinking(rightly or wrongly) App Store = safe, Web programs = unsafe. > if your customers like the App Store, Of course they will like it, it's front and center and easy to operate. How is that the dev's fault? >This is pure Darwinism. This is nothing like Darwinism. Perhaps it would be, if you assume that the sunlight, forest cover, predators and water supply were able to be controlled by a company. If you include advanced features in your app and thus are pushed out to an external distribution but your competitor releases with only limited features, who is going to make more money? And forget about a Lite version linking to the Pro one, that's prohibited too. The only "evolution" that will happen is that this will lead many small and mid developers to cut out features and operate only within a sandbox so as to get traction.

Duff 15y ago

Huh? So if I operate another marketplace/platform for delivering computer programs, say Steam, I should be out of business? How is destroying the competitive marketplace good for competition?

CJefferson 15y ago

Except of course, the App Store gets dropped into the dock of every Mac bought. I wonder (and just thinking out loud here) if there might end up being an 'app store' anti-trust suite, with Apple and Microsoft being forced to give things like Steam prominence?

yardie 15y ago
Every version of Windows back to 95 has included a link to the Microsoft Marketplace in the Start menu. I've never heard Valve or any other competitor complain about it.
- mayanksinghal 15y ago
  Microsoft Marketplace? I have been using Windows for the past 14 years - I haven't seen one.