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The spying worries me less than the influence to be honest. China doesn’t allow the same things on tiktok that tiktok promotes in other countries. There’s a re
by lettergram 4y ago
The spying worries me less than the influence to be honest. China doesn’t allow the same things on tiktok that tiktok promotes in other countries.
There’s a reason for that.
- distrill 4y agoyeah, i use tiktok a lot and i think about this all the time. it's so odd that this isn't the first thing people are discussing. imagine if the russian government sponsored a social media application, all we would be talking about was political meddling. it's almost exactly the same thing here.
- nivenkos 4y agoImagine if the US did...
- robonerd 4y agoExactly this. China doesn't allow TikTok as it exists in America to also exist in China, because they believe American TikTok is harmful to America and would be harmful to China as well.
- baby 4y ago^ this, do we want to be like China?
- pphysch 4y ago(looks at QoL of bottom 25%) Yes
- lettergram 4y agoHave you seen the bottom 70% of China? Many just disappear. The QoL of the bottom 25% of the US is well above the majority of the world. They also have the opportunity to rise, unlike most places.
- pphysch 4y agoSorry, what? Bottom of America can't afford (actual) education nor nutrition nor healthcare nor housing. And upward mobility? What an outdated concept. This is unprecedented for "developed" countries that aren't wartorn.
- CodeSgt 4y agoGo travel the world.
- pphysch 4y agoThis is about China, which factually has far better outcomes in public health and education than USA over the past decade. Go there and see!
- egg1 4y agoPlease tell me you did not just travel to a tier-1 city like Beijing or Shanghai, and extrapolated what you saw in the CBD to all of China. There is a reason that they're still desperately clinging to zero-COVID policies when the rest of the world has moved on, against seemingly all common sense.
- pphysch 4y agoWhen did "saving millions of lives" by safeguarding public health become against common sense? Genuinely would like a direct answer to that question. Was it 1991, when common sense was redefined as "whatever the global hegemon is doing"? Was it 2017, when Washington decided China was their ultimate adversary and can do nothing right?
- egg1 4y agoIt became against common sense when Omicron became a thing, and if you understand what the average Chinese person has to go through now to visit relatives in a neighboring city, shop for groceries, or really just to go anywhere... I hope you get the idea. It relies on totalitarian levels of AI + big data surveillance, internal passports, lockdown measures, and completely untenable long term. If I wasn't being clear, there are 2 major reasons why China refuses to open up: ineffective domestic vaccines and few hospital beds per capita. The CCP fears a total healthcare system collapse and subsequent discontent from its citizens.
- stjohnswarts 4y agothere are plenty of replacements for tiktok. The government should blanket ban it if apple and google won't do it.
- TheHalfDeafChef 4y agoI am curious about this. Has there been an analysis comparing the contents in the two respective countries? Something that would be illustrative of this claim. I am not doubting you or your statement. Just looking for information to back it up. My search consistently yields marketing stats. Perhaps I am using the wrong key words?
- Kye 4y agoKind of like how Russian hackers are careful to avoid Russian systems.
- jacooper 4y agoThis also applies to the U.S. too, we see it today how the US influences the entire world using its Tech hands, an example would be how Facebook always try to silence any activists in Palestine against the Apartheid state.
- jahewson 4y agoIs the reason that they’re a totalitarian regime?