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Companies don't deploy warrant canaries[0] just for fun. Lavabit[1] was also US based and shut down without the ability to defend itself thanks to a gag order.
by Sebb767 4y ago
Companies don't deploy warrant canaries[0] just for fun. Lavabit[1] was also US based and shut down without the ability to defend itself thanks to a gag order. It might not be just as bad as China, but secret data extraction is definitely not exclusive to them.
And, since you mentioned
> And in fact, the CCP holds the iCloud keys for all Chinese iCloud users.
Quoting from [1]:
> The court records show that the FBI sought Lavabit's Transport Layer Security (TLS/SSL) private key. Levison objected, saying that the key would allow the government to access communications by all 400,000 customers of Lavabit. He also offered to add code to his servers that would provide the information required just for the target of the order. The court rejected this offer
(I'm well aware that Levinson wasn't a halo figure, either. But that's beside the point)
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit#Suspension_and_gag_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit#Suspension_and_gag_ord...
- kube-system 4y agoLavabit would have never voluntarily shut down if it were operated in China, because the CCP members on the board would have voted to hand over the keys. Of course, governments in every country collect data in at least some circumstances, and the details of those circumstances are a topic of great public debate in western democracies. This friction is how democracies continually improve. It isn't an indication of disaster, it's an indication of progress being made. Disaster is when you don't hear about it at all, because it happens unilaterally and without contest.