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This again? Nuclear is not competitive with solar/wind on currrent LCOE, existing nuclear is basically good for base and peak load leveling, just like gas turbi
by AtlasBarfed 4y ago
This again? Nuclear is not competitive with solar/wind on currrent LCOE, existing nuclear is basically good for base and peak load leveling, just like gas turbine.
And solar/wind is still increasing in economies of scale. Current nuclear is not competitive and won't be, and there is no 10-year target price that any next-gen nuclear can reliably target without a ton of boondoggle incentives. Same with fusion.
In previous threads the nuclear people warn that all the nuclear engineers will age out if nuclear plants keep being decommissioned. This is a good thing.
Nuclear and next-gen are saddled with military who-cares-the-consequences-and-risks thinking combined with NIMBY regs that make it TOO difficult to approve. The hulking concrete dome designs that are what you're stuck with have fundamental design problems. The "industry" needs to be swept away.
In 10 years time, solar/wind/battery will stabilize long-term, and nuclear can consider designs that may be competitive.
Whatever the viability of LFTR engineering wise, this is the promise/advantage that any "next gen nuclear" needs to accomodate:
- breeds uses all the nuclear fuel, and can reprocess old waste (LFTR can do this)
- is meltdown proof (LFTR has the plug that will melt if reaction temp gets too hot and then the liquid disperses and neutron economy falls stalling the reaction)
- is scalable/compact (LFTR's test reactor was allegedly closet sized)
- has no shadow or cross-purpose design for nuclear weapons isotopes (LFTR is allegedly proliferation resistant). I suspect that PWR and solid fuel rod reactors "won" because the military got their isotopes.
In order to be palatable to the public, you need the LFTR capabilities, whether you do that with pebbles + reprocessing or some other scheme, but you NEED that full fuel use and closed cycle.
All these stories/posts are from "old guard nuclear" that handwave all the solid fuel rod design problems and dangers away. Honestly, good riddance to these people.