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Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world. - There will always be a ruler,

Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world. - There will always be a ruler, and which ruler is killing, slaving, censoring and selling it's own people as meat tools for foreign companies? - China will kill, torture it's own people and their families if they think they are a thread (even if remote) to their government party (CCP). - China put on a HEAVY surveilance tool and actually forced people to behave like they want using social credit - China is actively removing ANY historical filosophies, tales, traditions, religions that could be a thread to the CCP's beliefs. - Have you ever seen a CCP convention? Their plan is to remove the worlds countries boundaries in order to rule over everything from culture to politics and economics. Australia is suffering a lot on their hands, they even sent spies to patronize elections.

rhn_mk1 4y ago
Country of origin matters for the consequences, but doesn't matter for the principle.
pessimizer 4y ago
> Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world. It's important to generalize in order to show that some people are having arguments about principles, and others hate China. Sometimes you mistake the latter for the former, and waste your time making principled arguments with someone who just wants to kill.
wbsss4412 4y ago
The social credit system has been acknowledged by multiple western media outlets to have been greatly exaggerated and misreported. [0] To be sure, there are numerous areas in which the behavior of the Chinese government is concerning and unacceptable, but there is also an undeniable level of hysteria when it comes to China that is not applied to US Allies. (See: Saudi Arabia and the rest of the gulf states) [0] https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/ https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system...
- WiSaGaN 4y ago
  The social credit score is an interesting data point to gauge that how uninformed the west is about China. The credit score is not remotely about the everyday behaviors of its people, but about how credit-worthy a person which is the representative of a company, or even a local government entity. However, in the west, people are routinely joking about someone will lose credit score for whatever reason, even scholars like Piketty holds the same misinformed view. In the mean time, if you just have lived in China for one month, you know what is said in the west media is not true (you also know a lot of "evidence" of CCP documents from NYT are fake if know only remotely about how the party speaks and writes), and yet people in the west still believe in it, most of the time also with the belief that anyone likes China is either a bot/shill, or brainwashed person. My personal experience is that the level of uninformedness for both Chinese on US, and Amerian on China are not that different. What is different is the misplaced confidence in Americans about how informed they are about every topic in China. Chinese don't have that amount of confidence about knowledge of US.

rhn_mk1 4y ago

Country of origin matters for the consequences, but doesn't matter for the principle.

pessimizer 4y ago

> Stop generalizing the "country of origin" as if it does not matter like the Chinese Comunist Party isn't a threat to the world. It's important to generalize in order to show that some people are having arguments about principles, and others hate China. Sometimes you mistake the latter for the former, and waste your time making principled arguments with someone who just wants to kill.

wbsss4412 4y ago

The social credit system has been acknowledged by multiple western media outlets to have been greatly exaggerated and misreported. [0] To be sure, there are numerous areas in which the behavior of the Chinese government is concerning and unacceptable, but there is also an undeniable level of hysteria when it comes to China that is not applied to US Allies. (See: Saudi Arabia and the rest of the gulf states) [0] https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system/ https://www.wired.com/story/china-social-credit-score-system...

WiSaGaN 4y ago
The social credit score is an interesting data point to gauge that how uninformed the west is about China. The credit score is not remotely about the everyday behaviors of its people, but about how credit-worthy a person which is the representative of a company, or even a local government entity. However, in the west, people are routinely joking about someone will lose credit score for whatever reason, even scholars like Piketty holds the same misinformed view. In the mean time, if you just have lived in China for one month, you know what is said in the west media is not true (you also know a lot of "evidence" of CCP documents from NYT are fake if know only remotely about how the party speaks and writes), and yet people in the west still believe in it, most of the time also with the belief that anyone likes China is either a bot/shill, or brainwashed person. My personal experience is that the level of uninformedness for both Chinese on US, and Amerian on China are not that different. What is different is the misplaced confidence in Americans about how informed they are about every topic in China. Chinese don't have that amount of confidence about knowledge of US.