5 ms·

It's TikTok. Funny jokes and dance videos. And they're collecting no more than American IT companies are doing. "I just can't believe that a powerful country l

It's TikTok. Funny jokes and dance videos. And they're collecting no more than American IT companies are doing. "I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewhat unknown purpose." Are you for real? The one country that fits the description of not-so-friendly military-complex is the U.S. itself. A more pressing problem and question is that despite everything we learned from the CIA and NSA leaks, American companies and their software is inside every country, government, business and IT infrastructure, and is collecting vast amounts of sensitive data still to this day. All while people like you are drawing attention to TikTok.

vanillax 4y ago
Exactly. Plus the product is free. What do you expect? Oh no im gonna get targeted for ads on another site because of tiktok. What an uproar!
mean_pigeon 4y ago
This comment makes it pretty clear you don't use tiktok or have a very clear understanding of its content. A huge portion of content is political, and especially divisive. People are constantly targeted with content that either reinforces or insults their more extreme political beliefs. This is exactly how personal data is being used against individuals - to target divisive political content and maximize political angst. It's clearly working.
- posterboy 4y ago
  Yah nuh, it's not as if youtube don't do the same. More to the point, ycombinator is infamous for being a neoliberal silicon valley poster child. Nobody forced me to come here, or to tik tok
- hellomyguys 4y ago
  You're literally describing every major user generated content platform.
fortuna86 4y ago
"Yes but what about the US Government?" is not an actual response to concerns about Tiktok, it's a lazy attempt at deflection and distraction. And the US Government doesn't use private sector data to round up and imprison their citizens in concentration camps. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/huawei-surveillance-china/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/huawei-surve...
- lizardactivist 4y ago
  I don't answer to concerns about TikTok because I don't think there are any, and so I instead point to the ever-present elephant in the IT security discussion room. And as for the US Government and concentration camp, maybe they don't use private sector data for that, but they sure do it based on ethnicity and origins, such as Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WW2, and South American children and their immigrant parents literally put in cages just a couple of years ago.
  - fortuna86 4y ago
    You responded to a question with a demonstration of your politics (ie. who you trust, and who you don't trust). Trusting the Chinese Government when they are in the midst of using technology to enable horrific crimes against humanity is a weird political position to take. And pointing out anything that has nothing to do with Tiktok in a thread about Tiktok is not providing context, it's an attempt at distraction and deflection away from the thing you trust (the CCP, somehow) towards the thing you don't (the US Gov).
  - digisign 4y ago
    The original post above framed the issue from a national-security angle. Whether "this side" is-doing/has-done it as well is an orthogonal concern, i.e. not pertinent here. We have a small but non-zero ability to affect change on our side.

vanillax 4y ago

Exactly. Plus the product is free. What do you expect? Oh no im gonna get targeted for ads on another site because of tiktok. What an uproar!

mean_pigeon 4y ago

This comment makes it pretty clear you don't use tiktok or have a very clear understanding of its content. A huge portion of content is political, and especially divisive. People are constantly targeted with content that either reinforces or insults their more extreme political beliefs. This is exactly how personal data is being used against individuals - to target divisive political content and maximize political angst. It's clearly working.

posterboy 4y ago
Yah nuh, it's not as if youtube don't do the same. More to the point, ycombinator is infamous for being a neoliberal silicon valley poster child. Nobody forced me to come here, or to tik tok
hellomyguys 4y ago
You're literally describing every major user generated content platform.

fortuna86 4y ago

"Yes but what about the US Government?" is not an actual response to concerns about Tiktok, it's a lazy attempt at deflection and distraction. And the US Government doesn't use private sector data to round up and imprison their citizens in concentration camps. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/huawei-surveillance-china/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/huawei-surve...

lizardactivist 4y ago
I don't answer to concerns about TikTok because I don't think there are any, and so I instead point to the ever-present elephant in the IT security discussion room. And as for the US Government and concentration camp, maybe they don't use private sector data for that, but they sure do it based on ethnicity and origins, such as Japanese Americans in concentration camps during WW2, and South American children and their immigrant parents literally put in cages just a couple of years ago.
- fortuna86 4y ago
  You responded to a question with a demonstration of your politics (ie. who you trust, and who you don't trust). Trusting the Chinese Government when they are in the midst of using technology to enable horrific crimes against humanity is a weird political position to take. And pointing out anything that has nothing to do with Tiktok in a thread about Tiktok is not providing context, it's an attempt at distraction and deflection away from the thing you trust (the CCP, somehow) towards the thing you don't (the US Gov).
- digisign 4y ago
  The original post above framed the issue from a national-security angle. Whether "this side" is-doing/has-done it as well is an orthogonal concern, i.e. not pertinent here. We have a small but non-zero ability to affect change on our side.