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Ask Germany, they take both seriously. They are now dependent on natural gas imports. Guess where most natural gas is coming from for Germany...

rodoni 4y ago
Germany has 350g CO2 per kWh and they are also burning coal for energy. France has 50g CO2 per kWh. IMO they don't take climate change serious...
- rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
  And France is in trouble, as half its fleet of nuclear reactors are offline due to many issues (ERP delays, corrosion everywhere https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/04/24/french-energy-supplier-edf-shows-concern-over-corrosion-problems-at-its-nuclear-plants_5981437_19.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/04/24/french-...). Here are the wholesale electricity prices for next winter in various European countries. Look at the France-Germany spread! https://twitter.com/GoldbergNic/status/1542103521524424704 https://twitter.com/GoldbergNic/status/1542103521524424704 There's a reason why we had to turn on our old coal plants again.
lloeki 4y ago
> gas imports And, all the while being a major electricity exporter itself (towards e.g Poland), Germany also depends heavily on electricity imports from... France's nuclear generators. https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/electricity-export-france/ https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/electricity-export... TIL that Germany's inroads into green electricity production is more or less offset by its electricity exporting economy. Also Germany was a major exporter of reprocessable nuclear waste towards France (2nd place with 17% in reprocessed material at la Hague, 1st being France with 70%). That's old data though, IIRC they shut down 3 reactors (out of 6) since, the three remaining ones were due to shutdown this year but this is being reconsidered because gas x Ukraine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague_site https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague_site

rodoni 4y ago

Germany has 350g CO2 per kWh and they are also burning coal for energy. France has 50g CO2 per kWh. IMO they don't take climate change serious...

rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
And France is in trouble, as half its fleet of nuclear reactors are offline due to many issues (ERP delays, corrosion everywhere https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/04/24/french-energy-supplier-edf-shows-concern-over-corrosion-problems-at-its-nuclear-plants_5981437_19.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/04/24/french-...). Here are the wholesale electricity prices for next winter in various European countries. Look at the France-Germany spread! https://twitter.com/GoldbergNic/status/1542103521524424704 https://twitter.com/GoldbergNic/status/1542103521524424704 There's a reason why we had to turn on our old coal plants again.

lloeki 4y ago

> gas imports And, all the while being a major electricity exporter itself (towards e.g Poland), Germany also depends heavily on electricity imports from... France's nuclear generators. https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/electricity-export-france/ https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/electricity-export... TIL that Germany's inroads into green electricity production is more or less offset by its electricity exporting economy. Also Germany was a major exporter of reprocessable nuclear waste towards France (2nd place with 17% in reprocessed material at la Hague, 1st being France with 70%). That's old data though, IIRC they shut down 3 reactors (out of 6) since, the three remaining ones were due to shutdown this year but this is being reconsidered because gas x Ukraine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague_site https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Hague_site