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Great news. The fact that a company from the unfriendly country collects biometrical data may finally provoke enough outrage that such data collection gets for

Great news. The fact that a company from the unfriendly country collects biometrical data may finally provoke enough outrage that such data collection gets forbidden for everyone.

mistrial9 4y ago
except this is not new.. what is happening here?
ziddoap 4y ago
One can dream. But, I would imagine any such hypothetical regulation would have specific carve-outs for the US-based companies collecting the same/similar data. Because $.
belval 4y ago
Won't hold my breath. The unfortunate truth is that most people aren't really bothered by any of this and/or fail to grasp it entirely. Bringing up that TikTok collects biometric data will usually be met with blank stares and/or someone implying that it's a conspiracy theory.
krapp 4y ago
It won't, because the abortion data collection industry is is about to explode, along with whatever other data collection opportunities arise in the aftermath of the repeal of Roe v. Wade and the privacy arguments it depended upon. It seems far more likely to me that more US apps and services will be following TikTok's lead in the future, not fewer, and they will be more difficult to regulate.
paskozdilar 4y ago
I don't think it will. Invasive data collection benefits the powerful, and harms the individual. Nobody powerful gives a rat's ass about the individual.
theplumber 4y ago
Not really. Tiktok is bad because all of the sudden China became bad. It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. The U.S apps are "good" because they are PRISM-enabled and your have nothing to hide from the U.S gov, right?
- easytiger 4y ago
  > It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. Hmm. What are you basing this on?
  - theplumber 4y ago
    A quick google search may bring you some results. Until very recently(i.e the Huawei thing) the main idea was that China is the best thing since the sliced bread. I believe leaving Europe and focusing on China was seen as the next step in trade and foreign policy. That didn't age well though... >> In 2015 George Osborne, the then chancellor, promised a ‘golden decade’ for Chinese-British relations as he drummed up support for new trade opportunities and inward investment.
    - easytiger 4y ago
      There was a lull when globalist enthusiasts, such as Osborne, were more than happy to sell us out. China is a distinct evil that should never have been allowed to hack our economic system with their hyper scale authoritarian meat-robot control systems. People are not people to the party any more than cells are alive to anyone making a game of life clone
- Brometheus 4y ago
  It all started to go downhil when Xi decided he wanted to become the Chinese Kaiser.
K0SM0S 4y ago
Unless the lesson lies later down the road, when the biometrical of X billion people gets used for <insert nefarious purpose>. They say that we don't learn by knowing but by doing, and a significant part of the incentive to do is pain. The tragic irony lies in the fact that apparently, it only takes about 80 years to forget the last horrors —approximately one maximized average lifespan, makes sense I guess… Though what a piss-poor historical-attention span. Or about as much to collectively resign sensitivity to horror, as in the case of CCP-led China (1949-now). You know the problem with things that concerns everyone: everybody thinks somebody else is taking care of it; in the end nobody does.
antonymy 4y ago
I wish this was the case, but sadly people seem to have a massive blind spot when it comes to their own government having the same powers as the totalitarian CCP. One would think the implications are obvious and striking, impossible to miss, and yet I continually have to explain to people why these systems of surveillance are terrifying and inherently damaging to free societies.

Great news. The fact that a company from the unfriendly country collects biometrical data may finally provoke enough outrage that such data collection gets forbidden for everyone.

mistrial9 4y ago

except this is not new.. what is happening here?

ziddoap 4y ago

One can dream. But, I would imagine any such hypothetical regulation would have specific carve-outs for the US-based companies collecting the same/similar data. Because $.

belval 4y ago

Won't hold my breath. The unfortunate truth is that most people aren't really bothered by any of this and/or fail to grasp it entirely. Bringing up that TikTok collects biometric data will usually be met with blank stares and/or someone implying that it's a conspiracy theory.

krapp 4y ago

It won't, because the abortion data collection industry is is about to explode, along with whatever other data collection opportunities arise in the aftermath of the repeal of Roe v. Wade and the privacy arguments it depended upon. It seems far more likely to me that more US apps and services will be following TikTok's lead in the future, not fewer, and they will be more difficult to regulate.

paskozdilar 4y ago

I don't think it will. Invasive data collection benefits the powerful, and harms the individual. Nobody powerful gives a rat's ass about the individual.

theplumber 4y ago

Not really. Tiktok is bad because all of the sudden China became bad. It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. The U.S apps are "good" because they are PRISM-enabled and your have nothing to hide from the U.S gov, right?

easytiger 4y ago
> It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. Hmm. What are you basing this on?
- theplumber 4y ago
  A quick google search may bring you some results. Until very recently(i.e the Huawei thing) the main idea was that China is the best thing since the sliced bread. I believe leaving Europe and focusing on China was seen as the next step in trade and foreign policy. That didn't age well though... >> In 2015 George Osborne, the then chancellor, promised a ‘golden decade’ for Chinese-British relations as he drummed up support for new trade opportunities and inward investment.
  - easytiger 4y ago
    There was a lull when globalist enthusiasts, such as Osborne, were more than happy to sell us out. China is a distinct evil that should never have been allowed to hack our economic system with their hyper scale authoritarian meat-robot control systems. People are not people to the party any more than cells are alive to anyone making a game of life clone
Brometheus 4y ago
It all started to go downhil when Xi decided he wanted to become the Chinese Kaiser.

K0SM0S 4y ago

Unless the lesson lies later down the road, when the biometrical of X billion people gets used for <insert nefarious purpose>. They say that we don't learn by knowing but by doing, and a significant part of the incentive to do is pain. The tragic irony lies in the fact that apparently, it only takes about 80 years to forget the last horrors —approximately one maximized average lifespan, makes sense I guess… Though what a piss-poor historical-attention span. Or about as much to collectively resign sensitivity to horror, as in the case of CCP-led China (1949-now). You know the problem with things that concerns everyone: everybody thinks somebody else is taking care of it; in the end nobody does.

antonymy 4y ago

I wish this was the case, but sadly people seem to have a massive blind spot when it comes to their own government having the same powers as the totalitarian CCP. One would think the implications are obvious and striking, impossible to miss, and yet I continually have to explain to people why these systems of surveillance are terrifying and inherently damaging to free societies.