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The "technology shocks" were legal abortion and increased use of contraception, especially the pill. One of the co-authors, Janet Yellen, is Biden's Treasury se

The "technology shocks" were legal abortion and increased use of contraception, especially the pill. One of the co-authors, Janet Yellen, is Biden's Treasury secretary.

upupandup 4y ago
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- whateveracct 4y ago
  > Women value emotional connection in relationships > That's why they have less reason to get married You have a pretty sad view of marriage if you don't think it's about emotional connection...
  - upupandup 4y ago
    Tell me more. I would argue your marriage is in trouble if you don't recognize how important emotional connection is for its longevity.
    - iso1631 4y ago
      The original post claimed that women wanted emotional connections (and also implyed women don't have one night stands) The post then went on to claim that because they want emotional connection they don't get married (thus implying that marriage does not involve emotional connections)
      - upupandup 4y ago
        I think it's mostly men replying in these comments but as a woman: Yes, women do not have sex for purely physical reasons when they have affairs. They form emotional attachments after sex whereas men often do not. If they are able to access sex thanks to contraceptive technology, then the cost of marrying is very high. Are you saying that women shouldn't be having sex like men? Are you saying its not okay for women to be promiscuous?
        iso1631 4y ago
        No, that's what you're saying. You are claiming that women can't have a nice satisfying fuck without emotional baggage, but men can't have loving relationships of tenderness and emotional connection and it's just a physical act.
        upupandup 4y ago
        I did not make such claims that when women have affair its not to satiate physical needs. There could be rare cases where women only gets physical satisfaction but its sad to me that there are people who view women and men as equal we are built differently and experience the same thing differently. After all if your mom wanted to get her rocks off she could hire a male prostitute like your dad.
- Jerrrry 4y ago
  you will be downvoted for spouting facts. Nobody wants to admit it, but: The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
  - NoGravitas 4y ago
    You are literally quoting the Unabomber here.
    - imwillofficial 4y ago
      Sometimes the most insightful ideas comes from the most unexpected places.
    - 55555 4y ago
      I don't buy the argument; I think the world has gotten a lot better. But Ted Kaczynski was/is extremely smart, even if he was a domestic terrorist. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
      - Jerrrry 4y ago
        I think the argument is, that since the world improved so much, a lot of the social paradigms, customs, traditions that relied on and improved upon the human condition are left unsubstantiated, and the loss leads to social decay, that inevitably leads to societal decay.
    - bombcar 4y ago
      I think that's the whole point/joke. It's a bit of a meme these days.
- bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
  It's really dehumanizing to say women "cannot" have an affair for purely physical reasons. Women are people just like men and their motivations are just as complex and diverse as men's.
  - upupandup 4y ago
    As a woman I hard disagree. Women absolutely forms emotional attachments, sex is not physical on the level it is for men. If it was there would be massive industries dedicated to satiating their physical needs like for men. We are built differently and its not dehumanizing to be a woman because we are more emotional.
    - bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
      You said women categorically cannot have an affair for purely physical reasons. Do you really think out of the billions of women that have lived on earth that exactly zero had an affair for physical reasons?
  - psyc 4y ago
    “Women are people, just like men are people.” - yes, obviously. “Women are people, who are just like men.” - Noooop!
    - bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
      Wow I never said women are just like men, did I?
      - psyc 4y ago
        "Women are people just like men" What you did say is known as equivocation. That's what I'm pointing out.
- spamizbad 4y ago
  Sorry, I'm not convinced these issues would magically go away if you somehow reversed equal pay/job opportunities for women. One major change that happened in the wake of the cultural revolution was that family problems were discussed out in the open. So instead of basically everyone (including men!) suffering in loveless marriages, abusive relationships (also including men), child sexual abuse (again, impacted men as well) you could now air the dirty laundry - and, thanks to that revolution, you had an opportunity to escape it. Speaking as someone who is married, let me tell you: it has tons of advantages. You don't need to create a bunch of social restrictions to force anyone into it. But it does require you to hold up your end of the bargain to your partner.
- kmeisthax 4y ago
  The harm that social media platforms cause is not necessarily derived from the politics of their employees, for a few reasons: 1. People adopt political views that they do not act upon consistently. 2. The structure of a particular business can force it to act in contradiction to its political beliefs. In other words, Meta can say it supports whatever social justice initiative it likes while still acting to the detriment of the groups it claims to protect. The actual business it runs is one where the most profitable thing to do is to screw over the mental health of teenagers because it "boosts engagement". Those teenagers are not anguishing over being "too equal", they are bullying each other with exactly the same cudgels that the social justice left would rather get rid of. Children are bastards, and the business of giving social media accounts to children is profiteering off of making it easier for children to be bastards to one another.

The "technology shocks" were legal abortion and increased use of contraception, especially the pill. One of the co-authors, Janet Yellen, is Biden's Treasury secretary.

upupandup 4y ago

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whateveracct 4y ago
> Women value emotional connection in relationships > That's why they have less reason to get married You have a pretty sad view of marriage if you don't think it's about emotional connection...
- upupandup 4y ago
  Tell me more. I would argue your marriage is in trouble if you don't recognize how important emotional connection is for its longevity.
  - iso1631 4y ago
    The original post claimed that women wanted emotional connections (and also implyed women don't have one night stands) The post then went on to claim that because they want emotional connection they don't get married (thus implying that marriage does not involve emotional connections)
    - upupandup 4y ago
      I think it's mostly men replying in these comments but as a woman: Yes, women do not have sex for purely physical reasons when they have affairs. They form emotional attachments after sex whereas men often do not. If they are able to access sex thanks to contraceptive technology, then the cost of marrying is very high. Are you saying that women shouldn't be having sex like men? Are you saying its not okay for women to be promiscuous?
      - iso1631 4y ago
        No, that's what you're saying. You are claiming that women can't have a nice satisfying fuck without emotional baggage, but men can't have loving relationships of tenderness and emotional connection and it's just a physical act.
        upupandup 4y ago
        I did not make such claims that when women have affair its not to satiate physical needs. There could be rare cases where women only gets physical satisfaction but its sad to me that there are people who view women and men as equal we are built differently and experience the same thing differently. After all if your mom wanted to get her rocks off she could hire a male prostitute like your dad.
Jerrrry 4y ago
you will be downvoted for spouting facts. Nobody wants to admit it, but: The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
- NoGravitas 4y ago
  You are literally quoting the Unabomber here.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    Sometimes the most insightful ideas comes from the most unexpected places.
  - 55555 4y ago
    I don't buy the argument; I think the world has gotten a lot better. But Ted Kaczynski was/is extremely smart, even if he was a domestic terrorist. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
    - Jerrrry 4y ago
      I think the argument is, that since the world improved so much, a lot of the social paradigms, customs, traditions that relied on and improved upon the human condition are left unsubstantiated, and the loss leads to social decay, that inevitably leads to societal decay.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    I think that's the whole point/joke. It's a bit of a meme these days.
bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
It's really dehumanizing to say women "cannot" have an affair for purely physical reasons. Women are people just like men and their motivations are just as complex and diverse as men's.
- upupandup 4y ago
  As a woman I hard disagree. Women absolutely forms emotional attachments, sex is not physical on the level it is for men. If it was there would be massive industries dedicated to satiating their physical needs like for men. We are built differently and its not dehumanizing to be a woman because we are more emotional.
  - bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
    You said women categorically cannot have an affair for purely physical reasons. Do you really think out of the billions of women that have lived on earth that exactly zero had an affair for physical reasons?
- psyc 4y ago
  “Women are people, just like men are people.” - yes, obviously. “Women are people, who are just like men.” - Noooop!
  - bobbyasdfasdf7 4y ago
    Wow I never said women are just like men, did I?
    - psyc 4y ago
      "Women are people just like men" What you did say is known as equivocation. That's what I'm pointing out.
spamizbad 4y ago
Sorry, I'm not convinced these issues would magically go away if you somehow reversed equal pay/job opportunities for women. One major change that happened in the wake of the cultural revolution was that family problems were discussed out in the open. So instead of basically everyone (including men!) suffering in loveless marriages, abusive relationships (also including men), child sexual abuse (again, impacted men as well) you could now air the dirty laundry - and, thanks to that revolution, you had an opportunity to escape it. Speaking as someone who is married, let me tell you: it has tons of advantages. You don't need to create a bunch of social restrictions to force anyone into it. But it does require you to hold up your end of the bargain to your partner.
kmeisthax 4y ago
The harm that social media platforms cause is not necessarily derived from the politics of their employees, for a few reasons: 1. People adopt political views that they do not act upon consistently. 2. The structure of a particular business can force it to act in contradiction to its political beliefs. In other words, Meta can say it supports whatever social justice initiative it likes while still acting to the detriment of the groups it claims to protect. The actual business it runs is one where the most profitable thing to do is to screw over the mental health of teenagers because it "boosts engagement". Those teenagers are not anguishing over being "too equal", they are bullying each other with exactly the same cudgels that the social justice left would rather get rid of. Children are bastards, and the business of giving social media accounts to children is profiteering off of making it easier for children to be bastards to one another.