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> Technically speaking, they didn’t steal anything since they claimed the American territories as Spanish. Were there no indigenous people living there previou
by chinathrow 4y ago
> Technically speaking, they didn’t steal anything since they claimed the American territories as Spanish.
Were there no indigenous people living there previously?
- manuelabeledo 4y ago> Were there no indigenous people living there previously? There were. But the de facto successor to the indigenous governments was the Spanish crown. And the ship sank during Spanish rule. Spain is not going to claim a galleon loaded with goods taken from the Colombian territories _before_ the 1500s or _after_ 1810.
- chinathrow 4y ago> There were. But the de facto successor to the indigenous governments was the Spanish crown. And the ship sank during Spanish rule. Why would that make the "rule" morally fine?
- manuelabeledo 4y ago> Why would that make the "rule" morally fine? It doesn't, but that doesn't really matter. There are many legal things that are immoral.
- pdabbadabba 4y agoIt is up to us, the people living today, to decide whether Spanish governance at the time was legally legitimate and, therefore, whether the Spanish laws in force at the time should apply. We do not have to accept the Spanish colonial legacy just because the Spanish colonizers claimed to be legitimate.
- manuelabeledo 4y agoYou cannot back up on laws, unless you are willing to withdraw from all the current international treaties altogether. Right now, Spain does have a claim on the ship.
- chinathrow 4y ago> Right now, Spain does have a claim on the ship. A claim yes, a moral one? Not sure. A legal one? Also not sure.
- mc32 4y agoThere were and they overtook and conquered others there before them, the Spanish came after and finally a nation (half the continent excluding Brazil) declared its independence and became a new political entity.