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Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU

Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU and memory for complex databases regardless of your machine spec. These days I am mostly using VsCode for development and TablePlus/Postico for database development.

0des 4y ago
I thought I was the only one. For me it was GoLand, not to mention the constant feeling that im being watched. VSCode without telemetry is what I moved to.
- yole 4y ago
  JetBrains IDEs ask you whether you want to submit usage data on the first startup, and honor your choice. You are not watched if you don't give an explicit, opt-in permission for that.
- konkordat 4y ago
  Lol. VSCode with telemetry and autoupdates turned off still keeps pinging MS servers. There is your privacy.
  - 0des 4y ago
    I use the VSCodium variant, which is why I specified no telemetry.
CoffeeOnWrite 4y ago
> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs > These days I am mostly using VsCode for development Please qualify the difference in speed between JetBrains and VS Code. From my perspective, they are both “super slow” and “resource hogs”.
- oxfordmale 4y ago
  I have a MacBook Pro with 16GB of memory and i5 processor. It is sufficient for VsCode, however for some more complex Jetbrains products I sometimes struggle to copy and paste from one file to the other. On an 8GB machine VsCode is likely struggling as well, so a resource hog as well, just less so than some JetBrains products.
- calmoo 4y ago
  I moved from Jetbrains to VS code and the speed increase was phenomenal. Jetbrains was pretty sluggish and buggy on my MBP compared to VS code.
levoea 4y ago
> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs Yeah, every time i've tried CLion or Rider, the heap reaches its maximum size (4-8gb) like 10-20 minutes after starting the editor and then it becomes extremely slow and sluggish. My cpu goes crazy any time i start an analysis or any sort of task. I've tried to disable on the fly analysis, plugins and whatever i could find that i don't always need to be enabled, but it's barely better. On the other hand, I've used Intellij for years and it's never been that bad. It has much lower cpu/ram consumption even while having almost everything enabled. I've used the same configuration for years though, so it's possible that at some point I disabled whatever causes such resource usage and completely forgot about it. Or maybe the editors are actually different, though from my understanding they all share the same core.
kaba0 4y ago
The only reason they take up more resources than necessary is that the default VM settings are bad. They use an older GC algorithm with very low RAM setting, but all it does is make the GC run much more than it would with a decent size. If you happen to try it out again, I recommend setting the heap size to at least 4GB and removing the obsolete GC setting (defaulting to the G1 collector) or even better, changing to ZGC. Hopefully they will fix it in a newer version soon.

0des 4y ago

I thought I was the only one. For me it was GoLand, not to mention the constant feeling that im being watched. VSCode without telemetry is what I moved to.

yole 4y ago
JetBrains IDEs ask you whether you want to submit usage data on the first startup, and honor your choice. You are not watched if you don't give an explicit, opt-in permission for that.
konkordat 4y ago
Lol. VSCode with telemetry and autoupdates turned off still keeps pinging MS servers. There is your privacy.
- 0des 4y ago
  I use the VSCodium variant, which is why I specified no telemetry.

CoffeeOnWrite 4y ago

> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs > These days I am mostly using VsCode for development Please qualify the difference in speed between JetBrains and VS Code. From my perspective, they are both “super slow” and “resource hogs”.

oxfordmale 4y ago
I have a MacBook Pro with 16GB of memory and i5 processor. It is sufficient for VsCode, however for some more complex Jetbrains products I sometimes struggle to copy and paste from one file to the other. On an 8GB machine VsCode is likely struggling as well, so a resource hog as well, just less so than some JetBrains products.
calmoo 4y ago
I moved from Jetbrains to VS code and the speed increase was phenomenal. Jetbrains was pretty sluggish and buggy on my MBP compared to VS code.

levoea 4y ago

> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs Yeah, every time i've tried CLion or Rider, the heap reaches its maximum size (4-8gb) like 10-20 minutes after starting the editor and then it becomes extremely slow and sluggish. My cpu goes crazy any time i start an analysis or any sort of task. I've tried to disable on the fly analysis, plugins and whatever i could find that i don't always need to be enabled, but it's barely better. On the other hand, I've used Intellij for years and it's never been that bad. It has much lower cpu/ram consumption even while having almost everything enabled. I've used the same configuration for years though, so it's possible that at some point I disabled whatever causes such resource usage and completely forgot about it. Or maybe the editors are actually different, though from my understanding they all share the same core.

kaba0 4y ago

The only reason they take up more resources than necessary is that the default VM settings are bad. They use an older GC algorithm with very low RAM setting, but all it does is make the GC run much more than it would with a decent size. If you happen to try it out again, I recommend setting the heap size to at least 4GB and removing the obsolete GC setting (defaulting to the G1 collector) or even better, changing to ZGC. Hopefully they will fix it in a newer version soon.