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I have to admit I'm guilty of this, so much so that I'm tending towards discussing programming language features is moot without discussing the available toolin

by a_imho 4y ago

I have to admit I'm guilty of this, so much so that I'm tending towards discussing programming language features is moot without discussing the available tooling. In fact, I'm starting to think tooling is (slightly) more important.

jacobyoder 4y ago
Tooling and an active ecosystem around a language are generally more important for most projects. Lang-feature-X, on its own, is almost never the reason a project succeeds or fails. An active community fostering discussion about the best ways to address particular problems, with an ecosystem of libraries and examples that show one or more ways to deal with those problems - that is useful. As the language develops, the ecosystem will incorporate those newer features to build on the previous approach.