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I took this as a reminder to finally set up Thunderbird for my work email. After figuring out that gmail login will only work with cookies being enabled in the

I took this as a reminder to finally set up Thunderbird for my work email. After figuring out that gmail login will only work with cookies being enabled in the setting I am super happy to finally have a sane folder & filtering interface. I'll probably stick with google's UI for the agendas for now, but overall this is being really smooth. Ironically, the search in thunderbird, while not perfect, is so much better than on gmail, where I often have trouble finding emails from half an hour ago, searching for the exact subject line. EDIT: and spam filtering! It's amazing how many really important emails gmail flagged as spam for me. Like, mails coming from colleagues on the same custom domain, as replies to emails I sent them. I really don't get why people use google's products, honestly. At this point it's just pure monopoly I guess, and increasingly network effects since the big providers don't play well with smaller ones.

heavenlyblue 4y ago
> out that gmail login will only work with cookies being enabled What are other options of having your web-based client log into your email?
- black_puppydog 4y ago
  I meant I have to enable cookies in Thunderbird to be able to log into my gmail account via oauth
  - ordinary 4y ago
    Only for the first time. Subsequent times work even with cookies disabled.
wizofaus 4y ago
And I thought outlook (live.com)'s spam filtering was bad. It just doesn't seem like it should be that hard of a problem to solve - there's almost no case as a human I can't instantly tell that an email is spam or not-spam and give a concrete reason why. E.g. almost any email that uses my real name in the greeting isn't spam, and certainly one that's a reply to an email I've sent, yet I've seen examples of both end up in junk folders. It's distinguishing important emails specifically written to me providing key info or requiring my response vs mass-email or automatically generated email that I would think is a harder problem, but live.com seems to do it moderately well. If Thunderbird does auto categorization well that'd be reason enough to try it out (but where does the categorization execute, if you're using it from multiple devices?)

heavenlyblue 4y ago

> out that gmail login will only work with cookies being enabled What are other options of having your web-based client log into your email?

black_puppydog 4y ago
I meant I have to enable cookies in Thunderbird to be able to log into my gmail account via oauth
- ordinary 4y ago
  Only for the first time. Subsequent times work even with cookies disabled.

wizofaus 4y ago

And I thought outlook (live.com)'s spam filtering was bad. It just doesn't seem like it should be that hard of a problem to solve - there's almost no case as a human I can't instantly tell that an email is spam or not-spam and give a concrete reason why. E.g. almost any email that uses my real name in the greeting isn't spam, and certainly one that's a reply to an email I've sent, yet I've seen examples of both end up in junk folders. It's distinguishing important emails specifically written to me providing key info or requiring my response vs mass-email or automatically generated email that I would think is a harder problem, but live.com seems to do it moderately well. If Thunderbird does auto categorization well that'd be reason enough to try it out (but where does the categorization execute, if you're using it from multiple devices?)