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Because people protest when they have leverage. 1/10th of expectation may make people leave and 10X expectation will make people stay. There is nothing either "

Because people protest when they have leverage. 1/10th of expectation may make people leave and 10X expectation will make people stay. There is nothing either "just" or "noble" about getting as much as one can, it is just the way it is.

water-your-self 4y ago
If im selling my labour I intend go get the most that I can for it. This is a business transaction, and every publicly traded company already has an HR team of dozens of people already treating it like it is. "Fun" and "rewarding" are just words that someone in recruiting gets to write down next to "15% hiring cost savings" on their performance review.
- spoonjim 4y ago
  I don't know where you're at that the compensation is the only lever that matters to you. I have a job where my compensation is perhaps average+, but the flexibility is insane, I can take as much time off as I need when I need for family stuff, nobody is breathing down my neck, I wouldn't switch jobs for a 2x raise. Now 10x, well, OK. we're talking.
  - borroka 4y ago
    The relationship employee-employer is adversarial, the "we are a family" or "we take care of you" is a lie that unfortunately for the employee works more than expected. Just remember that the employer is not asking you what do you think about you being laid off. They just do it. It might reasonable on their part when looking at the "state of the business", but you as a lower-level employee (not C-level) has no say in any of those decision, you get what is thrown at you. I have also happen to believe that fewer hours, less stress, more flexibility are worth a lot of the money that is given up by not moving to a better-paying but more stress-inducing company. That's also the choice I made. But if I can get 1.5X, 2X etc. at my current company, you bet I am taking it big time.

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Because people protest when they have leverage. 1/10th of expectation may make people leave and 10X expectation will make people stay. There is nothing either "

by borroka 4y ago

water-your-self 4y ago
If im selling my labour I intend go get the most that I can for it. This is a business transaction, and every publicly traded company already has an HR team of dozens of people already treating it like it is. "Fun" and "rewarding" are just words that someone in recruiting gets to write down next to "15% hiring cost savings" on their performance review.
- spoonjim 4y ago
  I don't know where you're at that the compensation is the only lever that matters to you. I have a job where my compensation is perhaps average+, but the flexibility is insane, I can take as much time off as I need when I need for family stuff, nobody is breathing down my neck, I wouldn't switch jobs for a 2x raise. Now 10x, well, OK. we're talking.
  - borroka 4y ago
    The relationship employee-employer is adversarial, the "we are a family" or "we take care of you" is a lie that unfortunately for the employee works more than expected. Just remember that the employer is not asking you what do you think about you being laid off. They just do it. It might reasonable on their part when looking at the "state of the business", but you as a lower-level employee (not C-level) has no say in any of those decision, you get what is thrown at you. I have also happen to believe that fewer hours, less stress, more flexibility are worth a lot of the money that is given up by not moving to a better-paying but more stress-inducing company. That's also the choice I made. But if I can get 1.5X, 2X etc. at my current company, you bet I am taking it big time.