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> I'm not aware of any federal law that makes it illegal to sell a car without registering it or titling it if your car is involved in a crime, the cops will c

> I'm not aware of any federal law that makes it illegal to sell a car without registering it or titling it if your car is involved in a crime, the cops will come looking for you. maybe you can beat a conviction but you might face an uphill battle even with an attorney. but sure, it's not illegal to sell a car without transferring the title, but neither is it considered a legal sale. that is still your car as long as the title is in your name.

notch656a 4y ago
>if your car is involved in a crime, the cops will come looking for you. Sure, they'll come looking for you. Registration and titling of cars just makes that even worse, not better, for innocent people who lend out cars. If that's your argument, that's one against having registration / serial numbers / record of transferring firearms. The police can also rake you over the coals for anything. I had a search warrant once served to me because a few corrupt DHS agents (CBP and HSI) fabricated a warrant that suggested I had drugs up my ass (not even embellishing here). Police can come looking for you for any reason they want. Hopefully innocent people are eventually vindicated (as I was), but it's definitely better to never be identified in the first place if you're an innocent.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  > Sure, they'll come looking for you. Registration and titling of cars just makes that even worse, not better, for innocent people who lend out cars. Arguing against regular old accountability is not a good look.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    Arguing for 'accountability' against the innocent is not a good look. Particularly when those innocent are people who merely applied for a CCW and did nothing wrong.
    - spacemanmatt 4y ago
      It's not 'accountability' it's accountability, and it's not against innocent people, it's on behalf of innocent people. Including other CCW applicants/holders. Seems like you are all the way down the rabbit hole on this one. Have a nice day.
      - notch656a 4y ago
        Nothing says 'accountability' like picking one of the most law abiding groups (CCW holders, who are required to have on paper a relatively clean criminal background), and then releasing their private information regardless if they've committed or crime or even been suspected of one. I don't know if the reasoning here is the interest of public safety, but if it were that would be odd since on paper this group is less violent than the general population; people who have been pre-vetted not to have an unexpunged/unpardoned felony or record of domestic violence. Many of these people were victims of domestic violence and other harassers and abusers who very much don't want their location known publicly to these abusers, and got their CCW for protection from these abusers. Many were judges who have sent lots of angry people to jail. Taking a group, the vast majority of which have done nothing wrong, and wholesale holding them 'accountable' by releasing their private information is senseless and indefensible.
- somehnguy 4y ago
  > The police can also rake you over the coals for anything. I had a search warrant once served to me because a few corrupt DHS agents (CBP and HSI) fabricated a warrant that suggested I had drugs up my ass (not even embellishing here). There is so much more to this story than you're telling us. My first thought is that there is probably a reason for that. But I'm genuinely interested in hearing more.
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  - notch656a 4y ago
    The short of it is that I fought alongside YPG against ISIS nearly a decade ago, and some boneheads at CBP/DHS flagged my passport. Ever since they've had a craw up their ass to try to catch me doing something, and problematic detentions whenever I re-enter the US (as US citizen with valid passport). The last time was the worst, where I got some particularly corrupt individuals who were willing to lie to get a warrant. Of course nothing was found, because in reality I'm not doing bad/illegal things overseas nor at the border.
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notch656a 4y ago

>if your car is involved in a crime, the cops will come looking for you. Sure, they'll come looking for you. Registration and titling of cars just makes that even worse, not better, for innocent people who lend out cars. If that's your argument, that's one against having registration / serial numbers / record of transferring firearms. The police can also rake you over the coals for anything. I had a search warrant once served to me because a few corrupt DHS agents (CBP and HSI) fabricated a warrant that suggested I had drugs up my ass (not even embellishing here). Police can come looking for you for any reason they want. Hopefully innocent people are eventually vindicated (as I was), but it's definitely better to never be identified in the first place if you're an innocent.

spacemanmatt 4y ago
> Sure, they'll come looking for you. Registration and titling of cars just makes that even worse, not better, for innocent people who lend out cars. Arguing against regular old accountability is not a good look.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Arguing for 'accountability' against the innocent is not a good look. Particularly when those innocent are people who merely applied for a CCW and did nothing wrong.
  - spacemanmatt 4y ago
    It's not 'accountability' it's accountability, and it's not against innocent people, it's on behalf of innocent people. Including other CCW applicants/holders. Seems like you are all the way down the rabbit hole on this one. Have a nice day.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Nothing says 'accountability' like picking one of the most law abiding groups (CCW holders, who are required to have on paper a relatively clean criminal background), and then releasing their private information regardless if they've committed or crime or even been suspected of one. I don't know if the reasoning here is the interest of public safety, but if it were that would be odd since on paper this group is less violent than the general population; people who have been pre-vetted not to have an unexpunged/unpardoned felony or record of domestic violence. Many of these people were victims of domestic violence and other harassers and abusers who very much don't want their location known publicly to these abusers, and got their CCW for protection from these abusers. Many were judges who have sent lots of angry people to jail. Taking a group, the vast majority of which have done nothing wrong, and wholesale holding them 'accountable' by releasing their private information is senseless and indefensible.
somehnguy 4y ago
> The police can also rake you over the coals for anything. I had a search warrant once served to me because a few corrupt DHS agents (CBP and HSI) fabricated a warrant that suggested I had drugs up my ass (not even embellishing here). There is so much more to this story than you're telling us. My first thought is that there is probably a reason for that. But I'm genuinely interested in hearing more.
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- notch656a 4y ago
  The short of it is that I fought alongside YPG against ISIS nearly a decade ago, and some boneheads at CBP/DHS flagged my passport. Ever since they've had a craw up their ass to try to catch me doing something, and problematic detentions whenever I re-enter the US (as US citizen with valid passport). The last time was the worst, where I got some particularly corrupt individuals who were willing to lie to get a warrant. Of course nothing was found, because in reality I'm not doing bad/illegal things overseas nor at the border.
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