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What an out of touch take. There's a million reasons someone may not be comfortable having their video on that don't involve fraud.

Nextgrid 4y ago
Regularly, yes. But all the time? Come on.
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > Regularly, yes. But all the time? Come on. I have literally never turned on my video despite 2+ years of working remote. None of my team has either. The only people who ever do are director-level and above. You are out of touch. Not every workplace is your workplace.
  - kache_ 4y ago
    - tablespoon 4y ago
      > What has your team shipped? What kind of question is that? We've shipped our deliverables. It may be surprising to you, but grainy and awkward video of coworkers in zoom shirts looking at their other monitor is not actually required for people to get things done.
      - icedchai 4y ago
        This is true. Turning on the camera for video calls seemed very rare, pre-covid. We basically treated them like conference calls, with screen sharing.
  - bavell 4y ago
    Would you be able to recognize your colleagues if you passed them on the street? Or would you treat them like a stranger? It's not necessary to have the camera on most of the time but there's something a little sad about the lack of human experience in never even seeing who you work with. Vision is our most powerful sense and deeply rooted in our social psychology.
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- shard 4y ago
  I often keep my video off, but there are a few cases where I make sure I am presentable, and have my video on: 1. Meeting someone online for the 1st time. I have a video on to create more of a human connection. 2. When asking for help. I don't want to be a faceless entity asking for help, I feel that if the other person can see me, they are more likely to provide assistance. 3. When there is a conflict. Similar to 2, I feel that it's easier to resolve disagreements when looking at even just a face on a video as compared with a faceless voice. It might be that I am in a strategy team as opposed to engineering, so I have to collaborate and discuss items with members from other teams almost every meeting, and therefore relationships are much more important.
kache_ 4y ago
- 13of40 4y ago
  Where I work right now, the status quo is to have your camera on in meetings with other managers, but have all cameras off for meetings with individual contributors. To be honest, at this point the idea that we're anything more than just voices in the cloud is a nuisance more than anything else. I have a new intern who apparently keeps coming by my office for meetings expecting me to be there, when I'm actually sitting in the park on my 5G hotspot on the other side of town. I do wonder if this is just the last gasps of a brief moment of freedom, though, or if it's going to be the way we do business long term.
  - spookthesunset 4y ago
    Doing 5G from a park has no work life balance at all. Seems the opposite of freedom.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Regularly, yes. But all the time? Come on.

tablespoon 4y ago
> Regularly, yes. But all the time? Come on. I have literally never turned on my video despite 2+ years of working remote. None of my team has either. The only people who ever do are director-level and above. You are out of touch. Not every workplace is your workplace.
- kache_ 4y ago
  - tablespoon 4y ago
    > What has your team shipped? What kind of question is that? We've shipped our deliverables. It may be surprising to you, but grainy and awkward video of coworkers in zoom shirts looking at their other monitor is not actually required for people to get things done.
    - icedchai 4y ago
      This is true. Turning on the camera for video calls seemed very rare, pre-covid. We basically treated them like conference calls, with screen sharing.
- bavell 4y ago
  Would you be able to recognize your colleagues if you passed them on the street? Or would you treat them like a stranger? It's not necessary to have the camera on most of the time but there's something a little sad about the lack of human experience in never even seeing who you work with. Vision is our most powerful sense and deeply rooted in our social psychology.
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shard 4y ago
I often keep my video off, but there are a few cases where I make sure I am presentable, and have my video on: 1. Meeting someone online for the 1st time. I have a video on to create more of a human connection. 2. When asking for help. I don't want to be a faceless entity asking for help, I feel that if the other person can see me, they are more likely to provide assistance. 3. When there is a conflict. Similar to 2, I feel that it's easier to resolve disagreements when looking at even just a face on a video as compared with a faceless voice. It might be that I am in a strategy team as opposed to engineering, so I have to collaborate and discuss items with members from other teams almost every meeting, and therefore relationships are much more important.

kache_ 4y ago

13of40 4y ago
Where I work right now, the status quo is to have your camera on in meetings with other managers, but have all cameras off for meetings with individual contributors. To be honest, at this point the idea that we're anything more than just voices in the cloud is a nuisance more than anything else. I have a new intern who apparently keeps coming by my office for meetings expecting me to be there, when I'm actually sitting in the park on my 5G hotspot on the other side of town. I do wonder if this is just the last gasps of a brief moment of freedom, though, or if it's going to be the way we do business long term.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  Doing 5G from a park has no work life balance at all. Seems the opposite of freedom.