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The cure? Figure out what actually matters to you, and learn to treat everything that's not that as a means to that end and no more. In a state of severe motiv

by cs137 4y ago

The cure? Figure out what actually matters to you, and learn to treat everything that's not that as a means to that end and no more. In a state of severe motivational crisis (true burnout, not the yuppie-flu decline-of-interest that is often given this name), people aren't thinking clearly and are not equipped to do that. At that point, you're in survival mode and you're barely passing at that. Fencing with existential dragons is not going to help. People burn out for a variety of reasons but--again, if we're talking about true burnout--the cause is usually not just stress but distress: a subtype of stress that is relentless, purposeless, acutely dysphoric, and often imposed by external forces. The problem is that sometimes those external forces are wholly imagined (delusions and hypervigilance brought on by nervous exhaustion) and sometimes they are real and malevolent (such as in the case of the need to work to survive, which is imposed on us by an upper class we lack the organizational capability to remove from power and eliminate) and the burning-out person is never well-equipped to sort out which is the case.

FooBarBizBazz 4y ago
> an upper class we lack the organizational capability to remove from power and eliminate That's one hell of a parenthetical. Therapist: Have you considered breathing exercises? cs137: Yes, but I've found that the only long-term solution is to truck the managerial class to the killing fields. I'm not saying you're wrong, mind.
- cs137 4y ago
  It doesn't require we kill them, or anyone. We have to destroy the ruling elite's ability to function as a class. Whether that requires no violence or a significant amount, I can't predict; but, either way, we have to do it. They've left the world worse off than it was 50 years ago, and they're destroying the planet--and all for nothing, too. The corporate system has to be scrapped before it's too late.
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lolinder 4y ago
I agree with you, but I also do think that OP's point is important. You may not be equipped to wrestle with the existential dragons in your current position, and switching jobs will bring temporary relief. But at that point, when you have the relief, it's imperative to examine what happened and ensure that you make any changes you need to so that you don't end up back there.

by cs137 4y ago

FooBarBizBazz 4y ago

> an upper class we lack the organizational capability to remove from power and eliminate That's one hell of a parenthetical. Therapist: Have you considered breathing exercises? cs137: Yes, but I've found that the only long-term solution is to truck the managerial class to the killing fields. I'm not saying you're wrong, mind.

cs137 4y ago
It doesn't require we kill them, or anyone. We have to destroy the ruling elite's ability to function as a class. Whether that requires no violence or a significant amount, I can't predict; but, either way, we have to do it. They've left the world worse off than it was 50 years ago, and they're destroying the planet--and all for nothing, too. The corporate system has to be scrapped before it's too late.
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lolinder 4y ago

I agree with you, but I also do think that OP's point is important. You may not be equipped to wrestle with the existential dragons in your current position, and switching jobs will bring temporary relief. But at that point, when you have the relief, it's imperative to examine what happened and ensure that you make any changes you need to so that you don't end up back there.