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But almost nobody regrets it. Yeah, no. Gen X-er here - born before Roe v Wade. My own mother told me she'd have aborted me had it been legal. She felt trappe
by taylodl 4y ago
But almost nobody regrets it.
Yeah, no.
Gen X-er here - born before Roe v Wade. My own mother told me she'd have aborted me had it been legal. She felt trapped into getting married to someone she ultimately didn't love. I witnessed several domestic violence issues growing up. The "good news" is I wasn't alone - I knew other kids that had similar home issues. It was way more widespread than people let on.
This whole narrative of I had children unexpectedly at 18 and it was a miracle that changed my life - yeah it happens, but it's the rare case. That's not typically how that ball rolls.
The reality is it really sucks to be an unwanted child. Let them live, my ass. It's more like let them suffer.
- Grustaf 4y agoYou are not actually saying that she regretted having you, only that at the time she would have killed you if she could. It's obviously a horrible thing to say, to even feel, but it's different from what we are discussing.
- taylodl 4y agoLet me make it clear - she regretted having me. Those are the cold hard facts. If she could have aborted me and had another child later when she was prepared to have that child then she may have loved that child. As it is, there's a very dark downside to forcing unwanted children into this world that isn't being discussed.
- Grustaf 4y ago> forcing unwanted children into this world This turn of phrase, which I've seen used often, is bizarre and demonic. It implies that the default for children is to be killed.
- taylodl 4y agoNo. Forcing children to live in Hell is demonic. Unwanted children live a Hellish existence. Sorry to burst your bubble.
- Grustaf 4y agoThe issue is that these children live “in hell”, not that they are alive at all. The solution to potential future suffering is not to kill people. And needless to say, you can’t project your experience on every one.
- taylodl 4y agoNor can you project your naive thoughts of rainbows and unicorn farts on everyone living in Hell. It's extremely offensive. This is why nobody talks about it - tone deaf people like you trying to pooh pooh people's experiences and what they've watched their friends experience. Sorry. We're fighting back.
- Grustaf 4y agoAnd I'm not doing that. I don't doubt that you had a rough childhood, your mother is clearly an unfit parent. I still maintain that preemptively killing children because they might end up in bad families is not the way to go. A working social safety net, adoption, financial support for those in need are the humane way to solve it.
- taylodl 4y agoHere's the thing - women getting an abortion is a condemnation of our system. We had the opportunity to do all those things you suggest. We failed. We had all the motivation in the world to make it happen - save the children. Provide a viable alternative. We failed. How you think continuing to fail in solving these problems and then forcing women to have unwanted children is going to lead to anything good - actually it tells me you're most likely to be evil and simply aren't aware of it since you're accustomed to thinking of yourself as a good guy. Lucky for you I think Hanlon's Razor applies.
- Grustaf 4y agoI'm evil because I don't want children to be killed? That's a new one. What do you mean "we failed"? Clearly it's not impossible to have a working welfare system. Almost all developed nations manage it, many of which are poorer than the US. Just try again.