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> Why would voice deep-fakes even be necessary, given the interviewee is very unlikely to be known by the interviewer? I suppose it could be used to fake accent

> Why would voice deep-fakes even be necessary, given the interviewee is very unlikely to be known by the interviewer? I suppose it could be used to fake accents, You have it backwards-- the point is accent elimination. You don't need to sound like someone else, but you do need to not sound like someone of your own locale.

hgsgm 4y ago
Accents can only be changed, not eliminated.
- Calavar 4y ago
  That's a strange dichotomy to make. How is accent elimination different from an accent change from a nonstandard accent to a standard accent?
  - john-radio 4y ago
    He's just pointing out that the concept of "accent elimination" is obviously coming from someone who is in a mindset of, "I sometimes have coworkers who have accents, unlike me, who speaks in the default accent"
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    - zarzavat 4y ago
      I believe that "accent" here refers to "phonetics of a foreign language applied by a non-native English speaker". i.e. German speakers who merge /w/ and /v/ because no such distinction exists in German. That's a different kind of accent from an American, British or Kiwi accent, etc, which are produced by divergent populations of native English speakers.
      - eega 4y ago
        Why do you think that there isn’t any distinction between /w/ and /v/ in German? That’s simply not true …
tablespoon 4y ago
> You don't need to sound like someone else, but you do need to not sound like someone of your own locale. That doesn't make any sense though, given how many real tech workers are immigrants with accents. What you say does make sense for someone trying to do certain kinds of fraud (e.g. an Indian scammer pretending to be an IRS agent demanding iTunes gift cards), but not for applying for a tech job.
- jstarfish 4y ago
  Immigrants are people you can hold legally accountable for fraud. Someone who catfishes their way into a remote-work job and is untouchable by domestic law, not so much. There are some ethnic boundaries across which some employers are not willing to entrust remote work, and the response by the impacted demographic appears to be to double down on the fraud that led to the stereotypes to begin with.

hgsgm 4y ago

Accents can only be changed, not eliminated.

Calavar 4y ago
That's a strange dichotomy to make. How is accent elimination different from an accent change from a nonstandard accent to a standard accent?
- john-radio 4y ago
  He's just pointing out that the concept of "accent elimination" is obviously coming from someone who is in a mindset of, "I sometimes have coworkers who have accents, unlike me, who speaks in the default accent"
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  - zarzavat 4y ago
    I believe that "accent" here refers to "phonetics of a foreign language applied by a non-native English speaker". i.e. German speakers who merge /w/ and /v/ because no such distinction exists in German. That's a different kind of accent from an American, British or Kiwi accent, etc, which are produced by divergent populations of native English speakers.
    - eega 4y ago
      Why do you think that there isn’t any distinction between /w/ and /v/ in German? That’s simply not true …

tablespoon 4y ago

> You don't need to sound like someone else, but you do need to not sound like someone of your own locale. That doesn't make any sense though, given how many real tech workers are immigrants with accents. What you say does make sense for someone trying to do certain kinds of fraud (e.g. an Indian scammer pretending to be an IRS agent demanding iTunes gift cards), but not for applying for a tech job.

jstarfish 4y ago
Immigrants are people you can hold legally accountable for fraud. Someone who catfishes their way into a remote-work job and is untouchable by domestic law, not so much. There are some ethnic boundaries across which some employers are not willing to entrust remote work, and the response by the impacted demographic appears to be to double down on the fraud that led to the stereotypes to begin with.