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I'm not conceding any other part of whatever argument you're making, but saying that unfertilized eggs are individual humans is completely ludicrous. They aren'

• Retric 4y ago
  Eggs are happy to sit frozen for decades outside a human body after the donors death then be implanted in someone else. That’s a living organism though less hardy than a HeLa cell line. Sure they aren’t viable on their own, but apparently we can’t apply that standard to a fetus. Clearly someone should not be considered alive because theirs frozen eggs still alive. That’s independent. Eggs that are sitting around like that presumably have vastly higher odds of being implanted than one of your random skin cells. Something like 15 orders of magnitude or more. Despite what is sometimes said, the moment of fertilization isn’t suddenly creating life both cells where alive before that point.
  • rimunroe 4y ago
    > but apparently we can’t apply that standard to a fetus For what it's worth I'm totally fine applying that standard to a fetus. Being able to be kept frozen outside a body doesn't make something an organism, at least not by any definition of the term I've ever heard.
    • rimunroe 4y ago
      (Though to be clear I think a person should be able to do whatever they want with whatever is inside them until the moment it’s not)