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How many immigrants - at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum - does Brazil let in each year?

by EricE 4y ago

sfuller808 4y ago
oezi 4y ago
And why would immigrants have lower life-expectancy? Why would the immigration to the US skew the result if we compare for instance with immigrants to Europe (mostly from Africa/Asia). It seems it is a comparable rate.
- notch656a 4y ago
  >And why would immigrants have lower life-expectancy (in reply to comment about immigrants of low socio-economic status) So lets phrase that taking into context in which the question was asked: And why would immigrants of low socio-economic status have lower life-expectancy in a nation where those where of low socio-economic status have lower life expectancy? The question is self answering.
  - oezi 4y ago
    It isn't at all. At least not without data to back it up. For instance it could be easy to argue that the opiod crisis which has been depressing life expectancy in the US substantially is primarily affecting existing low socio-economic status citizens of the US rather than immigrants. (some data seems to suggest it might be half the death rate for Hispanics compared to white US population https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6843a3.htm#T1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6843a3.htm#T1_down ) And doesn't the US have a strong mix of highly skilled immigrants to skew the overall immigrant numbers if indeed low skilled immigrants have shorter lifes? Another statistical reason why I would think that immigrants have higher life-expectancy is that by definition child mortality won't affect immigrants. If you die before immigrating you are not affecting US statistics. If you are born after immigration you aren't an immigrant.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Life expectancy for an adult is calculated based on your present age, not birth. View any mortality table and your life expectancy changes every year you live. >If you are born after immigration you aren't an immigrant. If you are born of an immigrant of low socio-economic status, you are predisposed towards a lower socio-economic status. Therefore the immigrant has influenced this statistic even through non-immigrant births. >At least not without data to back it up. You want data to back up that generally in the US and/or within immigrant populations, life expectancy is lower as you go into lower socio-economic groups? Is anyone really trying to refute this?

How many immigrants - at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum - does Brazil let in each year?

by EricE 4y ago

How many immigrants - at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum - does Brazil let in each year?

sfuller808 4y ago

oezi 4y ago

And why would immigrants have lower life-expectancy? Why would the immigration to the US skew the result if we compare for instance with immigrants to Europe (mostly from Africa/Asia). It seems it is a comparable rate.

notch656a 4y ago
>And why would immigrants have lower life-expectancy (in reply to comment about immigrants of low socio-economic status) So lets phrase that taking into context in which the question was asked: And why would immigrants of low socio-economic status have lower life-expectancy in a nation where those where of low socio-economic status have lower life expectancy? The question is self answering.
- oezi 4y ago
  It isn't at all. At least not without data to back it up. For instance it could be easy to argue that the opiod crisis which has been depressing life expectancy in the US substantially is primarily affecting existing low socio-economic status citizens of the US rather than immigrants. (some data seems to suggest it might be half the death rate for Hispanics compared to white US population https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6843a3.htm#T1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6843a3.htm#T1_down ) And doesn't the US have a strong mix of highly skilled immigrants to skew the overall immigrant numbers if indeed low skilled immigrants have shorter lifes? Another statistical reason why I would think that immigrants have higher life-expectancy is that by definition child mortality won't affect immigrants. If you die before immigrating you are not affecting US statistics. If you are born after immigration you aren't an immigrant.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    Life expectancy for an adult is calculated based on your present age, not birth. View any mortality table and your life expectancy changes every year you live. >If you are born after immigration you aren't an immigrant. If you are born of an immigrant of low socio-economic status, you are predisposed towards a lower socio-economic status. Therefore the immigrant has influenced this statistic even through non-immigrant births. >At least not without data to back it up. You want data to back up that generally in the US and/or within immigrant populations, life expectancy is lower as you go into lower socio-economic groups? Is anyone really trying to refute this?