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> I don’t think I’ve ever seen any sort of data that backed up cars over buses as a more efficient transit system other than people comparing their personal tri
by throwaway894345 4y ago
> I don’t think I’ve ever seen any sort of data that backed up cars over buses as a more efficient transit system other than people comparing their personal trip time as equal or greater in importance than everyone else having transit times reduced
I think some of that is because public transit is unsexy, so people come out with dubious comparisons or at least ones which misleadingly appear to support a pro-public-transit conclusion. For example, I saw a study that showed that a dedicated bus lane has a far greater capacity than using the same lane for car transit. I completely believe the finding, but people pass share it around as evidence that dedicated bus lanes are a no brainer; however, this ignores that buses are rarely capacity constrained so adding a dedicated bus lane would likely decrease the throughput of the street even though the capacity increases (of course if more people start taking the bus as a result, then maybe the throughput could increase?).
I want public transit to work out, but my experiences with public transit and driving in Chicago make me realize that public transit has a long way to come (not only with respect to all of the unpleasantness of public transit, but even with sheer convenience--driving in Chicago is much faster, I can bring my dog and more easily transport other things, etc).
I'm not sure it's feasible for most people to do without owning a car, but we probably can get to a world where people need to use their car less, and we can also work on improving car transit too. Work on city/suburb design that encourages cars to take highways rather than city streets, continue making cars safer and lighter, etc.
- seoaeu 4y agoThe goal of bus lanes isn’t to maximize throughput, but rather to decrease bus travel time. Pointing out the peak capacity of a bus lane being radically higher than a mixed traffic lane is only meant to justify why a bus lane can be worthwhile even if it usually looks empty