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Odd to see CNN last when https://lite.cnn.com/en https://lite.cnn.com/en exists. Maybe that should be another entry?
by gravypod 4y ago
Odd to see CNN last when https://lite.cnn.com/en https://lite.cnn.com/en exists. Maybe that should be another entry?
- enlyth 4y agoFor some reason these just look unreadable to me, a huge wall of text and just too much information thrown at me at once from all sorts of random topics that I may or may not care about. I actually really enjoy the newspaper style visual layout, even if they use stock photos. It makes it easier to navigate with my mind. The ads and bloat can all be solved by installing an ad blocker.
- axg11 4y agoYou're not wrong. This is how the internet used to look like. Modern web layouts and designs evolved to be this way because they result in higher engagement metrics.
- drewzero1 4y agoThere's also the fact that screens have gotten so much bigger since the early web. A wall of text didn't look as much like a wall when it was in a 640x480 window. (Minus a couple of banner ads, of course!)
- hombre_fatal 4y agoWell, higher engagement metrics seems like a cynical way to say "more readable" especially given the parent comment's complaint. You don't need commercial interests to think about UX. The early web looked the way it did mostly due to hobbyism and undeveloped UX standards that we take for granted today.
- axg11 4y agoI didn’t intend to use engagement metrics in a negative way. We also have to note that the audience has changed. The audience of the early web was very different to the average audience today (almost everyone).
- bradgessler 4y agoI thought about including the "lite" websites, but decided against it since those are not the primary news reading experiences that they're pushing. What I might do is add a link to any news website that has a lite/text-only website. I'll go ahead and say that yes, this is somewhat self-serving, but I'm hoping this puts pressure on some news websites to get their act together and make their primary news websites faster for everybody. --- Edit: I've pushed out the updates 1. Individual speed reports now include a link to the text-only sites. 2. Methodology makes a mention of it at https://legiblenews.com/speed/methodology https://legiblenews.com/speed/methodology (I still need to refine it; wrote and published in haste)
- synu 4y agoWhy don’t the lite versions count? They are what I use on mobile for primary reading. If the goal is pressuring sites that are too slow you should reward the ones that are quick.
- TylerE 4y agoThe goal is clearly self-promotion, and not neutral observation.
- LeoPanthera 4y agoThis is crazy. You made a lightweight, text-only news site, but then refuse to compare it to the other lightweight, text-only news sites. As well as CNN, NPR has one too: https://text.npr.org https://text.npr.org There's also http://68k.news http://68k.news which is particularly nice because it hyperlinks to images in the stories rather than embedding them.
- april_22 4y agoDidn't know https://lite.cnn.com/en https://lite.cnn.com/en exists Looks very clean, thanks for this
- metadaemon 4y agoGot a 96 for me: https://pagespeed.web.dev/report?url=https%3A%2F%2Flite.cnn.com%2Fen https://pagespeed.web.dev/report?url=https%3A%2F%2Flite.cnn.... Oddly enough legible news only got an 86: https://pagespeed.web.dev/report?url=https%3A%2F%2Flegiblenews.com%2F https://pagespeed.web.dev/report?url=https%3A%2F%2Flegiblene...
- metadaemon 4y agoOops that was on the Mobile tab. Both score 100 on Desktop.
- bradgessler 4y agoYeah speed varies depending on time of day and whether or not your Heroku instances are being subjected to an influx of HN traffic. :-) Cranking up the Dynos to keep up. Which BTW, that's the funny thing, Heroku is super duper slow, and I still manage to run a reasonable fast news website. Here's response times under HN load: https://s3.amazonaws.com/bradgessler/Eu1cKE24dpKjTkqNcK3qPqH3mwwXirAlOJiZXN9Sd4nSOdWtU4N6Ir3NB96h0WGkXo3NzEghEzUl8dYOOwSgFhcRQlXMuy6WfruS.png https://s3.amazonaws.com/bradgessler/Eu1cKE24dpKjTkqNcK3qPqH... 99th percentile is at 175ms.
- turtlebits 4y agoIf your page is only updated once a day, why not render a static html site and put it on a host like netlify?
- encryptluks2 4y agoThis. There is no need for a cloud server. Even better get a 10GB port private server from Interserver and stop using Heroku.
- busymom0 4y agoHadn’t heard of Interserver before. How are they?
- jwilk 4y agoIt's annoying the the lite.cnn.com URLs look nothing like the normal ones, e.g.: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/28/entertainment/tom-hanks-forrest-gump-interview-intl-scli/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/28/entertainment/tom-hanks-f... https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_fdb58e07457b1cd96266160502456b5c https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_fdb58e07457b1cd96266160502... Does anyone know how to automatically map one to the other?
- stuross 4y agoyou can't connect that two at the moment. Though there will be an update soon to use the same slug as www.cnn.com
- yashap 4y agoAlso, I will say that the normal CNN site is slow to completely load, but decently fast to become interactive. Like on my iPhone, everything above the fold is loaded and interactive reasonably quickly, even if the little blue loader bar does take quite awhile to finish. But if you’re not focusing on that, the site doesn’t FEEL slow, as the key content you want to start reading right away does load decently fast.