> Patriotic feelings or values? But that's exactly my point. Few people believe the military advances those values. Edit: To clarify, when I wrote "their inte

> Patriotic feelings or values? But that's exactly my point. Few people believe the military advances those values. Edit: To clarify, when I wrote "their interests", I meant including collective interests, i.e. those of the group or nation, whose defense is usually lumped under "patriotism".