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> but the world of eink is filled with patents and lawsuits, and I think that if I implemented this and it worked well I could never sell it. Even if I gave it

> but the world of eink is filled with patents and lawsuits, and I think that if I implemented this and it worked well I could never sell it. Even if I gave it away for free, I'd probably have lawyers banging on my door wanting to take away my home. I work in the display industry. I've never heard anything like what you describe, except on HN comments and blogs that use HN comments as citations. Look at my comment history. I think your claim is false because everytime I've challenged a claim like yours the poster has never been able to substantiate it, but I keep an open mind, if you can provide some real citations backing your claim then I'm happy to be corrected.

londons_explore 4y ago
[patent links. You may or may not want to click] There are lots of patents on electrophoretic displays.[1] And unlike some other industries, these patents are actually used in lawsuits by some players [2]. And anonymous insiders suggest that litigation and threats of litigation, together with enforced secrecy agreements really shape the industry [3]. [1]: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=electrophoretic+display&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2010&as_yhi= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=electrophoretic+display... [2]: https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2017-12-20/e-ink-successfully-defends-patent-infringement-case https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2017-12-20/e-ink-su... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26143779 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26143779
- ThrowawayR2 4y ago
  A link to a single patent lawsuit and a link to an old HN post from a brand new throwaway account which itself provides no citations or links? That's not very persuasive. Both Dasung and Onyx have been able to bring e-ink monitors using their technologies to market so if there's a significant barrier, it's not apparent.
- robinsoh 4y ago
  > There are lots of patents on electrophoretic displays. There are lots of patents on software. Could you explain your point in greater detail? > And unlike some other industries, these patents are actually used in lawsuits by some players I'm not able to follow. I work in the display industry. What lawsuits are you referencing? What players? How is it any different than the software industry? Anonymous insiders? You mean one HN post that appears nonsensical to a display industry insider who commented on that post and said it sounds like sour grapes from a guy who bought a few displays from Samsung LCD and expects Samsung to give him commercial pricing terms and special support and handholding for his startup?

londons_explore 4y ago

[patent links. You may or may not want to click] There are lots of patents on electrophoretic displays.[1] And unlike some other industries, these patents are actually used in lawsuits by some players [2]. And anonymous insiders suggest that litigation and threats of litigation, together with enforced secrecy agreements really shape the industry [3]. [1]: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=electrophoretic+display&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2010&as_yhi= https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=electrophoretic+display... [2]: https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2017-12-20/e-ink-successfully-defends-patent-infringement-case https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2017-12-20/e-ink-su... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26143779 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26143779

ThrowawayR2 4y ago
A link to a single patent lawsuit and a link to an old HN post from a brand new throwaway account which itself provides no citations or links? That's not very persuasive. Both Dasung and Onyx have been able to bring e-ink monitors using their technologies to market so if there's a significant barrier, it's not apparent.
robinsoh 4y ago
> There are lots of patents on electrophoretic displays. There are lots of patents on software. Could you explain your point in greater detail? > And unlike some other industries, these patents are actually used in lawsuits by some players I'm not able to follow. I work in the display industry. What lawsuits are you referencing? What players? How is it any different than the software industry? Anonymous insiders? You mean one HN post that appears nonsensical to a display industry insider who commented on that post and said it sounds like sour grapes from a guy who bought a few displays from Samsung LCD and expects Samsung to give him commercial pricing terms and special support and handholding for his startup?