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Certain Spanish people especially those in bureaucracy come really close to not doing anything. I've asked for a certificate at my local town hall that takes th

Certain Spanish people especially those in bureaucracy come really close to not doing anything. I've asked for a certificate at my local town hall that takes them 3 minutes to print. This was 20 days and three in-person visits ago. They just don't want to do it. I told them I needed it to pay taxes, and they just shrugged their shoulders. Pretty crazy.

JoiDegn 4y ago
This is still the case? My mother told me she used to take a bottle of some alcohol to drink with them and after spending an hour or two with them she would usually get what she needed. That was in Andalucia which I guess might be a special case even in Spain...
tluyben2 4y ago
I (from NL) have been in ES and PT for a long time and noticed that Spanish natives make a scene when it is urgent; crying or shouting or both with certain types of (semi) gov employees. It works; I get whatever I want, fast. I don’t like it so I only do it when it actually is urgent; for most things I don’t care if it’s a week or a year so I just wait.
EL_Loco 4y ago
I lived in my country's capital for almost ten years, and since a huge part of the population there are in public service (you get in through a selection exam and once you get in you pretty much can't get fired, and the pay is pretty good). While I lived there, some of my friends would do this at work: Use most of their work hours to study for a higher paying public service exam. Play online multiplayer games. Everyday. (don't know if only within their department or connected to the outside) Do nothing 60% of the time. Work half the hours they were supposed to, because the whole department decided that they had enough people to turn an 8 hour shift into 4 hours and get everything done. When a new boss decided to end this and made everybody work their 8 hours, they rebelled and the department couldn't get anything done. And no one could be fired. *etc Not everybody did this, of course. I had some friends who worked their hours, and put their effort to it, but the culture was definitely messed up.

JoiDegn 4y ago

This is still the case? My mother told me she used to take a bottle of some alcohol to drink with them and after spending an hour or two with them she would usually get what she needed. That was in Andalucia which I guess might be a special case even in Spain...

tluyben2 4y ago

I (from NL) have been in ES and PT for a long time and noticed that Spanish natives make a scene when it is urgent; crying or shouting or both with certain types of (semi) gov employees. It works; I get whatever I want, fast. I don’t like it so I only do it when it actually is urgent; for most things I don’t care if it’s a week or a year so I just wait.

EL_Loco 4y ago

I lived in my country's capital for almost ten years, and since a huge part of the population there are in public service (you get in through a selection exam and once you get in you pretty much can't get fired, and the pay is pretty good). While I lived there, some of my friends would do this at work: Use most of their work hours to study for a higher paying public service exam. Play online multiplayer games. Everyday. (don't know if only within their department or connected to the outside) Do nothing 60% of the time. Work half the hours they were supposed to, because the whole department decided that they had enough people to turn an 8 hour shift into 4 hours and get everything done. When a new boss decided to end this and made everybody work their 8 hours, they rebelled and the department couldn't get anything done. And no one could be fired. *etc Not everybody did this, of course. I had some friends who worked their hours, and put their effort to it, but the culture was definitely messed up.