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I guess we will have text-to-image startups in the next batch of YC.

nudpiedo 4y ago
wandb forbids reusing the models and other information, independently of their usage, so they should find another source for their models EDIT: as I am being accused of inventing it I will quote the terms of agreement and license, since maybe its own founder seems to not have read it or someone without training on how to write proper terms and agreements made it for them and the restrictive usage of "Material" does apply to its hosted software. Note that there is no formal definition of "Materials" or "Service", so that it applies to all the contents of the webpage including the software stored there: https://wandb.ai/site/terms https://wandb.ai/site/terms I quote it: 2. Use License Whether you are accessing the Services for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only (our free license for individuals only), for academic use, or for commercial purposes (our subscription package for businesses), permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the information or software (the “Materials”) from our website. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license, you may not: a. Modify or copy the Materials; b. Use the Materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial); c. Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained in the Materials; d. Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Materials; or e. Transfer the Materials to another person or "mirror" the Materials on any other server. This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by us at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format. f. Utilize our personal license for individuals for commercial purposes and any such use of our personal license for commercial purposes (e.g. using your corporate email) may result in immediate termination of your license.
- slewis 4y ago
  Founder of Weights & Biases here (wandb). We don’t forbid anything, models are property of the people who created them. Why do you think that? EDIT: I'll edit respond, since you did. Look at sections 3b and 3c in the terms, they cover Models and other user content specifically. Those are user property, not our property. But I can see how this is confusing. We will clarify it.
  - idontknowifican 4y ago
    - nudpiedo 4y ago
      Please abstain yourself of writing any sort of derogatory comment without provide any constructive argument to the conversation, and just downvote the comment, or even better: follow how the conversation follows. I also recommend you to read the guidelines on how to post in the HN community, check the section regarding how and what to comment in the link here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html EDIT: added link
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  - nudpiedo 4y ago
    Did you write your own terms of agreement rather than a lawyer? I signed up today and that was explicitly written in the license agreement, point 2. Note that there is no formal definition of "Materials" or "Service", so that it applies to all the contents of the webpage including the software stored there, and as soon as anything is ambiguous the interpretation is free (or random). https://wandb.ai/site/terms https://wandb.ai/site/terms I quote it: 2. Use License Whether you are accessing the Services for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only (our free license for individuals only), for academic use, or for commercial purposes (our subscription package for businesses), permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the information or software (the “Materials”) from our website. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license, you may not: a. Modify or copy the Materials; b. Use the Materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial); c. Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained in the Materials; d. Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Materials; or e. Transfer the Materials to another person or "mirror" the Materials on any other server. This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by us at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format. f. Utilize our personal license for individuals for commercial purposes and any such use of our personal license for commercial purposes (e.g. using your corporate email) may result in immediate termination of your license.
upupandup 4y ago
Pornhub is working on something I hear
- picsao 4y ago
- harpersealtako 4y ago
  It's only a matter of time before we get a good NSFW image generation algorithm. Text erotica generation is already a not-insignificant part of the public AI world (remember AI dungeon? Most people used it for porn). The question is whether it's going to come out of the established adult industry or not. There are clear benefits (no real humans needed anymore, personalized fetish material forever, etc.), the only issue is whether they're willing to deal with the inevitable bad press (e.g. fake images of real people, taboos like underage content or disturbing imagery). I wouldn't be surprised if any models from the adult industry will basically be heavily gimped from the start to avoid liability.
  - upupandup 4y ago
    I feel like anybody, especially female, who have high res photos/videos of themselves nude or not on the internet are going to wake up one day that they have turned into a pornstar. For example, kpop idols. There are high rest 60fps fancams of them dancing, there are high res broadcasts, images from all angles. There's already a huge market for deep fake kpop and I believe that they are in for a reckoning. which is an awful awful thing ;)
    - harpersealtako 4y ago
      I'm not sure whether you actually think this is good or bad but honestly I bet it would actually be a net positive, in a "if everybody's a pornstar, nobody is" kind of way. If you can generate nsfw video from a picture of a face with the press of a button, it will probably cease to be a thing that matters to anybody within a generation or two, in the same way we think about Photoshop today. It might be a bit of an awkward transition though since it definitely offends most modern people's sensibilities. Lets be real though, it's the anime-style generation models that are going to be the pioneers in this field.

wandb forbids reusing the models and other information, independently of their usage, so they should find another source for their models EDIT: as I am being accused of inventing it I will quote the terms of agreement and license, since maybe its own founder seems to not have read it or someone without training on how to write proper terms and agreements made it for them and the restrictive usage of "Material" does apply to its hosted software. Note that there is no formal definition of "Materials" or "Service", so that it applies to all the contents of the webpage including the software stored there: https://wandb.ai/site/terms https://wandb.ai/site/terms I quote it: 2. Use License Whether you are accessing the Services for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only (our free license for individuals only), for academic use, or for commercial purposes (our subscription package for businesses), permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the information or software (the “Materials”) from our website. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license, you may not: a. Modify or copy the Materials; b. Use the Materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial); c. Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained in the Materials; d. Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Materials; or e. Transfer the Materials to another person or "mirror" the Materials on any other server. This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by us at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format. f. Utilize our personal license for individuals for commercial purposes and any such use of our personal license for commercial purposes (e.g. using your corporate email) may result in immediate termination of your license.

slewis 4y ago
Founder of Weights & Biases here (wandb). We don’t forbid anything, models are property of the people who created them. Why do you think that? EDIT: I'll edit respond, since you did. Look at sections 3b and 3c in the terms, they cover Models and other user content specifically. Those are user property, not our property. But I can see how this is confusing. We will clarify it.
- idontknowifican 4y ago
  - nudpiedo 4y ago
    Please abstain yourself of writing any sort of derogatory comment without provide any constructive argument to the conversation, and just downvote the comment, or even better: follow how the conversation follows. I also recommend you to read the guidelines on how to post in the HN community, check the section regarding how and what to comment in the link here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html EDIT: added link
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- nudpiedo 4y ago
  Did you write your own terms of agreement rather than a lawyer? I signed up today and that was explicitly written in the license agreement, point 2. Note that there is no formal definition of "Materials" or "Service", so that it applies to all the contents of the webpage including the software stored there, and as soon as anything is ambiguous the interpretation is free (or random). https://wandb.ai/site/terms https://wandb.ai/site/terms I quote it: 2. Use License Whether you are accessing the Services for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only (our free license for individuals only), for academic use, or for commercial purposes (our subscription package for businesses), permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the information or software (the “Materials”) from our website. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license, you may not: a. Modify or copy the Materials; b. Use the Materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial); c. Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained in the Materials; d. Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Materials; or e. Transfer the Materials to another person or "mirror" the Materials on any other server. This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by us at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format. f. Utilize our personal license for individuals for commercial purposes and any such use of our personal license for commercial purposes (e.g. using your corporate email) may result in immediate termination of your license.

upupandup 4y ago

Pornhub is working on something I hear

picsao 4y ago
harpersealtako 4y ago
It's only a matter of time before we get a good NSFW image generation algorithm. Text erotica generation is already a not-insignificant part of the public AI world (remember AI dungeon? Most people used it for porn). The question is whether it's going to come out of the established adult industry or not. There are clear benefits (no real humans needed anymore, personalized fetish material forever, etc.), the only issue is whether they're willing to deal with the inevitable bad press (e.g. fake images of real people, taboos like underage content or disturbing imagery). I wouldn't be surprised if any models from the adult industry will basically be heavily gimped from the start to avoid liability.
- upupandup 4y ago
  I feel like anybody, especially female, who have high res photos/videos of themselves nude or not on the internet are going to wake up one day that they have turned into a pornstar. For example, kpop idols. There are high rest 60fps fancams of them dancing, there are high res broadcasts, images from all angles. There's already a huge market for deep fake kpop and I believe that they are in for a reckoning. which is an awful awful thing ;)
  - harpersealtako 4y ago
    I'm not sure whether you actually think this is good or bad but honestly I bet it would actually be a net positive, in a "if everybody's a pornstar, nobody is" kind of way. If you can generate nsfw video from a picture of a face with the press of a button, it will probably cease to be a thing that matters to anybody within a generation or two, in the same way we think about Photoshop today. It might be a bit of an awkward transition though since it definitely offends most modern people's sensibilities. Lets be real though, it's the anime-style generation models that are going to be the pioneers in this field.